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RE: Will Amnesty International be taking up the case of DavidCarruthers of BetOnSports?
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 20:20:41 +0100 (BST)
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 Blanchard_Michael () emc com wrote:
so how could have he protected himself from US law while still offering his online casino?
Not travelling via the USA would have been a good idea.
Would a simple disclaimer page be sufficient? One that states, by clicking below you accept full responsibility blahdy blah blah?
Despite the popularity of such disclaimers, they don't actually work.
I still fail to see how he could be prosecuted under US law for a web casino that is hosted in his own country where it's perfectly legal.....
He was offering bets on US sporting events, and taking the bets from USians.
Mike B Michael P. Blanchard Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 4400 Computer Dr. Westboro, MA 01580 -----Original Message----- From: Brian Loe [mailto:knobdy () gmail com] Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:38 AM To: Drsolly Cc: Blanchard, Michael (InfoSec); funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] Will Amnesty International be taking up the case of DavidCarruthers of BetOnSports? On 7/20/06, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:Question I have here is: how did this guy break a US law from the UK?You can break the law of country X while standing in country Y. For example, if you throw a stone across the border, deliberately, in order to smash someone's window. If the act is a crime in *both* countries, then country Y will normally extradite the perp to country X to stand trial there. If it's not a crime in country Y, then they normally won't extradite.I understood/understand all of that, but the question is how did HE break a US law from the UK - I'm pretty sure the "pond" is far to wide to be throwing rocks over. Did he break it by advertising here perhaps? In other words, his services were obtained by US citizens going to him, not the other way around. And its not as if they were going to him because he mislead them as to what his services were (he wasn't offering up some African country's riches to be transferred to their account upon their visit). Seems to me that his customers may have broken the law but not his company - UNLESS there's some weird law about advertising illegal services to US citizens (we citizens being to stupid/ignorant to know better ourselves). If that were the case though, this would just be an issue for online gambling sites, as mentioned before, but for a whole slew of services being advertised via the web.
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- Re: Will Amnesty International be taking up the case of DavidCarruthers of BetOnSports? Brian Loe (Jul 21)
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- Re: Will Amnesty International be taking up the case of DavidCarruthers of BetOnSports? Brian Loe (Jul 21)
- Re: Will Amnesty International be taking up the case of DavidCarruthers of BetOnSports? Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 21)
- Re: Will Amnesty International be taking up the case of DavidCarruthers of BetOnSports? Brian Loe (Jul 21)
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