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RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 20:02:37 +0100 (BST)
I've noticed a lot of bad feeling against the AV companies. People think they write the viruses, people think they deliberately hype the problem, people think that AV products should be made so they don't need updates. A lot of the comments are "The AV companies don't like to see third party testing, and that's why they're against this test." There's a lot of confusion about why this test isn't a good thing - too many people are focusing on the ethical issue (I think that's a major red herring, it's not too difficult to ensure the test files get destroyed) and not enough are focussing on the issue of whether this is actually a useful test. On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, Alex Eckelberry wrote:
Now the action has moved to BroadBand reports, where there is a raging debate both in favor and against CR's testing methodology. Surprisingly, it seems that there are some who actually think CR did a good thing. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,16725030 Alex Eckelberry -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Blue Boar Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:57 PM To: Drsolly Cc: funsec () linuxbox org Subject: Re: [funsec] Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly wrote:No, I'm saying that there's an Intelligent Designer behind the viruses, and your purpose isn't the purpose of the virus authors, and you would design different viruses from the ones they would design.OK, I'm not sure what would be qualitatively different about me the virus author, versus the natural self-selected population of virus authors, but at least I understand your position better. For the record, I wasn't trying to hint that I could write some uber-polymorphic-super virus. I'm under the impression that I could write some 80's-style file infecter, and as long as it's original, it wouldn't be detected. BB _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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Current thread:
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Alex Eckelberry (Aug 19)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 19)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blue Boar (Aug 19)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Peter Kosinar (Aug 19)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blue Boar (Aug 19)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 19)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 19)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Peter Kosinar (Aug 19)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 20)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blue Boar (Aug 19)
- RE: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 19)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 19)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Blue Boar (Aug 19)
- Re: Consumer Reports Slammed for Creating 'Test' Viruses Drsolly (Aug 19)