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Re: Point of No Return? Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impo ssible
From: James Kehl <shykta () dione ids pl>
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 14:01:50 +0200 (CEST)
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, Drsolly wrote:
"When you are dealing with rootkits and some advanced spyware programs, the only solution is to rebuild from scratch. In some cases, there really is no way to recover without nuking the systems from orbit," Mike Danseglio, program manager in the Security Solutions group at Microsoft, said in a presentation at the InfoSec World conference here.Maybe MS should do "Windows for Grannies", along the lines of grannix. If all the software is on CD Rom and you can't install software on the hard disk, then you've moved quite a long way to hardeing the system.
There's been some thought about this, but not enough... when every motherboard has a flash-based BIOS, or worse still, EFI - there really is no way to recover. Nuke it from orbit, buy a new one. Hard disk imaging isn't enough - come to think of it, even hard disks and CD-ROM drives accept firmware upgrades these days. I suspect not even TCPA could detect and protect against a hard disk rootkit... James _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Point of No Return? Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impo ssible Nick FitzGerald (Apr 04)
- Re: Point of No Return? Microsoft Says Recovery from Malware Becoming Impo ssible Drsolly (Apr 05)
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