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Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK?
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 00:20:56 +0100 (BST)
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006, David Lodge wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:00:39 +0200, xyberpix <xyberpix () xyberpix com> wrote:I can't say to be honest, but it just seems really wrong and troubing. I can't quite put my finger on it though :(It's only the edited electoral role and the normal BT phone book - this is available at any public library. (For the non-UK readers, the government *finally* allow you to opt out of having your name and address publically published on the electoral register, why you'd ever want to be sent loads of junk I can never understand!) I'm not there so I'm happy :-) (only on the unedited register and ex-directory, another thing I can't understand is why peopl want to be cold called by putting their details in the phone book.)
You can opt out of being cold-called, by putting yourself on the "Telephone preference list". But that only stops sales calls. Market research calls are still allowed. Isn't that cute? So, I got a cold-call from a (genuine) market research agency, one of the big ones. And it was them that explained to me that they didn't have to abide by the TPL. So I explained to them that, even if they didn't have to abide by it, wouldn't it be nice if they did. Actually, I worked my way though most of their senior management, insisting on explaining this to each and every one of them, very politely, but quite firmly. So they explained to me that if they did that, it would bias the randomness of their survey. So I explained to them, that if I don't want to answer their survey, then I bloody well wouldn't, and surely that would be just as much of a bias as if they hadn't phoned me in the first place? Well, yes. So then I explained that actually, it's worse than that, because if someone like them pisses off someone like me by calling me after I've clearly indicated that I don't want to be cold-called, then an awkward bastard like me is quite capable of giving very wrong answers in an effort to *deliberately* mess up their results. And they asked, why would anyone do that? So I explained that it would be a good way to deter them from phoning people on the TPL even though they don't have a legal obligation not to call them, so we have to find some alternative way of making it in their interest not to call us. So, I've created the "Market research telephone cold-call buggeration association". To be a member, all you have to do, is bugger up any telephone survey that cold-calls you (i.e., don't just put the phone down on them, give them wrong answers). _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Wanna know about someone in the UK? xyberpix (Apr 07)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? Dude VanWinkle (Apr 07)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? Technocrat (Apr 07)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? Dude VanWinkle (Apr 07)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? xyberpix (Apr 08)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 09)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? xyberpix (Apr 10)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? Dude VanWinkle (Apr 10)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? David Lodge (Apr 12)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? Drsolly (Apr 12)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? Andrew (Apr 12)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? Drsolly (Apr 13)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? Andrew (Apr 13)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? Technocrat (Apr 07)
- Re: Wanna know about someone in the UK? Dude VanWinkle (Apr 07)