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RE: turn in your knives!
From: Blanchard_Michael () emc com
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:20:28 -0400
My favorite: More people are killed in the US by Heart Disease than anything else at all... Ban all Big Macs and other food that is "not good for you" Close runner up of mine: More people are killed in the US by doctor's errors than firearms. Ban all Doctors....er, Hmmmmm.... How many lives to Doctors save? Hundreds? Thousands? Ok, lets focus on this then.... On the serious side.... How many lives are saved by owning a firearm in the US? I'm serious with this question, I don't have time to look it up though. I know in "American Rifleman" magazine, there is a page dedicated to "Armed Citizen". On this page there are newspaper clips of people fending off attackers by having a firearm in their possession. A great many of these clips are from people that would surely have been killed by their attacker. Ok, the anti-gun person would say, dial 911 (or other suitable outside US emergency number). How can a 80 year old person dial 911 and still fend off their attacker until the police show up and not be dead when they arrive..... So I ask this question, how many lives have firearms saved.... Citizen's lives, not on duty police, etc.... Michael P. Blanchard Antivirus / Security Engineer, CISSP, GCIH, CCSA-NGX, MCSE Office of Information Security & Risk Management EMC ² Corporation 4400 Computer Dr. Westboro, MA 01580 -----Original Message----- From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org] On Behalf Of Brian Loe Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:43 PM To: Drsolly; FunSec LList Subject: Re: [funsec] turn in your knives! On 5/30/06, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:
Or they understand the issue better than you do.
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I think you're completely wrong here and I think folks like Drsolly prove it. There are several arguments for guns (rights, self-defense, hunting, etc.) and only one against them (people can get killed) whichThat's a pretty good one, you know.
No, its a pretty childish one, and not very useful. For instance, a child is killed more often by falling into a 5 gallon bucket than a firearm, per year, in the US. Ban 5 gallon buckets. More people are killed by automobiles than any other cause, per year, in the US. Ban cars. If you're truly concerned with the life and death of folks, surely firearms would be the least of your worries - these are just two examples from the leading cause of death in the US. There are plenty more where they came from, and all of them rank higher than firearms. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: turn in your knives! Dude VanWinkle (May 24)
- Re: turn in your knives! Drsolly (May 24)
- Re: turn in your knives! Brian Loe (May 24)
- RE: turn in your knives! Alex Eckelberry (May 24)
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- RE: turn in your knives! Brian Azzopardi (May 25)
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