Re: Duh - Chaining Zeno?

[Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>]

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Dude VanWinkle wrote:

> On 2/24/06, Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 23:15:50 CST, RLVaughn said:
> > >
> > > > "We also showed theoretically how to obtain the answer without ever
> > > > running the algorithm, by using a 'chained Zeno' effect."
> > >
> > > It's shit like this that gets you '42' as an answer....
> >
> > The quantum counterfactual is one of the most weird aspect of the whole
> > theory.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterfactual_definiteness
>
>
> It seems to me that Heisenberg is assuming that we will always use
> invasive technology to measure particle movement and velocity, but if
> we develop a passive way of measuring the momentum and positions, then
> wouldnt we be able to know both at the same time?
 
Absolutely. If we could measure position and velocity without actually 
looking at the particle. Do you have a proposal for how that might be 
possible?

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