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Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search
From: Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu>
Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2006 13:09:02 -0600
--On February 4, 2006 9:57:43 AM -0500 "Richard M. Smith" <rms () bsf-llc com> wrote:
Boy, you just have to love the Times, don't you? They're so fair and open-minded.http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/04/technology/04privacy.html The break in the St. Louis murders came in 2002, when a reporter received an anonymous letter with a map generated by Microsoft's MSN service - marked with the location where a body could be found. The F.B.I. subpoenaed Microsoft for records of anyone who had searched for maps of that area in the days before the letter was sent. Microsoft discovered that only one user had searched for precisely that area and provided the user's Internet Protocol address. That address, in turn was provided by a unit of WorldCom, which identified the user as Maury Troy Travis, a 36-year-old waiter. (Mr. Travis was arrested and hanged himself in jail without ever admitting guilt.)
Here's the first few paragraphs of their story. The highlighting is mine.Who is sending threatening e-mail to a teenager? Who is saying disparaging things about a company on an Internet message board? Who is communicating online with a suspected drug dealer?
These questions, and many more like them, are asked every day of the companies that provide Internet service and run Web sites. And even though these companies promise to protect the privacy of their users, *****they routinely hand over the most intimate information ***** in response to legal demands from criminal investigators and lawyers fighting civil cases.
Such data led directly to a suspect in a school bombing threat; it has also been used by the authorities to track child pornographers and computer intruders, and has become a tool in civil cases on matters from trade secrets to music piracy. In St. Louis, records of a suspect's online searches for maps proved his undoing in a serial-killing case that had gone unsolved for a decade.
In short, just as technology is prompting Internet companies to collect more information and keep it longer than before, prosecutors and civil lawyers are more readily using that information.
So, even though serial murders that have "gone unsolved for a decade" are now solved, and even though a school bombing case may have been solved, and even though child pornographers and thieves stealing copyrighted material have been busted, there's just something eeeeevvvviiiilllll about IPSs just "giving away" all the "most intimate information" about you. Even though we have well-established rules for obtaining that evidence, and even though the courts have established a system that, in my view, protects the criminals *too* much.
Heh.Apparently, in the Times' world, we shouldn't be allowed to see the evidence of your crime unless it's laying out in plain view.
Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/ _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Richard M. Smith (Feb 04)
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- RE: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Richard M. Smith (Feb 04)
- RE: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Paul Schmehl (Feb 05)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search James Kehl (Feb 05)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Paul Schmehl (Feb 05)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 06)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Colin Rognlie (Feb 06)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Paul Schmehl (Feb 06)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Axel Pettinger (Feb 06)
- RE: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Richard M. Smith (Feb 04)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Paul Schmehl (Feb 04)
- Re: 2002 murder suspect located via MSN Map search Paul Schmehl (Feb 05)