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Re[2]: Sony DRM Rootkit (again) and questions about its disclosure...
From: Pierre Vandevenne <pierre () datarescue com>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:39:37 +0100
Good Day, BB> They need to stop being wusses, and detect solely based on behavior, and BB> not license. They're businesses :-) I've obviously dealt with a lot of AV companies and I've dealt with Sony. I've got a private "ethics" scale which I won't disclose, but I can certainly say that Sony is NOT at the bottom, far from it. I should probably shut up and surf on the tide but I am actually positively impressed by Sony's reaction speed and their attitude, given the size of the company and the stakes involved. I find their response timely and appropriate, given the scope of the problem and the publicity it gets. Of course, it is a bit weak on the technical side, but one can't realistically expect big companies like that to be ideally informed at that level. Many companies/organizations have reacted in a worse way (Adobe vs Sklyarov, Felten vs RIAA, Cisco...) than Sony. BB> ramped back up, and way surpassed anything that went on back then. BB> Thanks, DMCA! In a way, yes. But, in some ways, the consumer is really getting what he deserves. BB> If you insist on having copy protection, then IDA Pro is a good example BB> of how to do it nicely. But one could argue that it doesn't work. It is good enough today, and we generally have a good relationship with our customer base in a niche market, but our web server logs are... hmmmm... interesting. Well, actually, it work in 99.99% of the cases, which speaks highly of our customers, but is unfortunately bad enough to lead to statistically amusing facts.... (more about this later, elsewhere) BB> You punish the paying customer as little as BB> possible. The big media comapnies haven't gotten that message. Our customer base is very different. The issue is quite complex, not simply black/white imho. -- Best regards, Pierre mailto:pierre () datarescue com _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Sony DRM Rootkit (again) and questions about its disclosure... Fergie (Nov 17)
- And another Sony DRM Rootkit question Larry Seltzer (Nov 17)
- Re: And another Sony DRM Rootkit question Pierre Vandevenne (Nov 17)
- RE: And another Sony DRM Rootkit question Larry Seltzer (Nov 17)
- Re: And another Sony DRM Rootkit question Mary Landesman (Nov 17)
- Re: And another Sony DRM Rootkit question Pierre Vandevenne (Nov 17)
- Re: Sony DRM Rootkit (again) and questions about its disclosure... Pierre Vandevenne (Nov 17)
- Re: Sony DRM Rootkit (again) and questions about its disclosure... Blue Boar (Nov 17)
- Re[2]: Sony DRM Rootkit (again) and questions about its disclosure... Pierre Vandevenne (Nov 17)
- Sony DRM Rootkit samples Jochen (Nov 21)
- RE: Sony DRM Rootkit samples Larry Seltzer (Nov 21)
- Re: Sony DRM Rootkit samples Jeff Kell (Nov 21)
- RE: Sony DRM Rootkit samples Larry Seltzer (Nov 21)
- Re: Sony DRM Rootkit (again) and questions about its disclosure... Blue Boar (Nov 17)
- And another Sony DRM Rootkit question Larry Seltzer (Nov 17)