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Re: Re[2]: Routers
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:20:11 +1300
Pierre Vandevenne wrote:
VKve> Further hatred is engendered by the fact that this creeping horror escaped from VKve> Microsoft *after* one of the great "Security is important" diatribes from the VKve> Gates/Ballmer duo. I find this to be a great idea, somewhere between DHCP and e-mail in terms of usefulness and significance. True, it has problems, but so had/has e-mail. If anyone here can propose some network thingy that is at the same time practically useful for most everyone and totally safe, boldly step forward!
The main difference between Email and UPnP is that Email never was supposed to be secure, and had obvious (but tolerable) security implications to its (originally intended) users. UPnP is deliberately designed to _unbeknownst to the (likely) affected user_ lower the security of _other_ security measures that were presumably deliberately put in place to _increase_ said user's security. Sure it's "convenient", but security-wise it is an entirely different kettle of fish from Email as it deliberately lowers the security of _other_ supposed security measures... Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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