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Re: OpenSSL, OpenSSH ecdsa authentication code inconsistent return values.. no vulnerability?


From: Aris Adamantiadis <aris () 0xbadc0de be>
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:00:09 +0200

Hi,

The curve is not user-supplied in SSH. The curve is defined by whatever
is selected during the key exchange process, and the only possible
alternatives are nistp256, nistp384 and nistp521, therefore users can't
send points in weak curves.

Since in openssh all groups are initialized from their names, comparing
the length of a group point is valid and much faster than comparing the
groups themselves.

Aris

Le 13/09/13 08:56, king cope a écrit :
Georgi thanks for the pointer, though I guess points that are not on
the curve will be rejected in the case the curve is not user supplied.
If the curve is user supplied the authentication might succeed if this
case is not catched before.
Great work Georgi, always wanted to thank you ;-)

2013/9/13 Georgi Guninski <guninski () guninski com>:
Didn't quite understood the checks, but here is an idea:

If you can make a user supplied point NOT ON THE curve
to be accepted as valid, this might break the other private
key (basically it is working on another curve, leaking info
about the private key).

There is a document describing the exact attack,
if you can do this check for a start:

http://crypto.stackexchange.com/questions/3820/why-do-public-keys-need-to-be-validated


On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 08:11:47AM +0200, king cope wrote:
Hello lists,

Attached is the blog post for the mentioned issues that in its shape
are not a vulnerability, still interesting to see.

http://kingcope.wordpress.com/2013/09/13/opensslopenssh-ecdsa-authentication-code-inconsistent-return-values-no-vulnerability/

Cheers,

Kingcope

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