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Re: Google's robots.txt handling


From: Swair Mehta <swairmehta () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 19:12:53 -0800

Coldwind is right, u r talking about security through obscurity.

If u tell a pentester that u r using joomla and php together, he/she
will try <yourwebsite>.com/administrator
 Since if u r ignorant and havent blocked access to it, your joomla
access page will show up and hydra/brutus will be able to take over
from there.


On 10-Dec-2012, at 3:35 PM, Gynvael Coldwind <gynvael () coldwind pl> wrote:

Hey,

Here is an example:

An admin has a public webservice running with folders containing
sensitive informations. Enter these folders in his robots.txt and
"protect" them from the indexing process of spiders. As he doesn't
want the /admin/ gui to appear in the search results he also puts his
/admin in the robots text and finaly makes a backup to the folder
/backup.

If no one would know about a folder, why would one add it to
robots.txt in the first place?
But that's missing the point anyway - robots.txt is not a security mechanism.
If someone uses robots.txt as the only and last line of defense he
plainly doesn't understand what he's doing (especially that it's one
of the first files both pentesters & attackers look at).

If someone has an /admin/ site (which is a really easily guessable
name, checked by every web directory scanner out there) he cannot rely
on concealment*, but on proper user authentication using mechanisms
designed for such purpose (e.g. requiring a password).

(* for historical reasons there is a Polish IT term for such attempts
- "deep hiding", there's even a wiki page on that -
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C5%82%C4%99bokie_ukrycie)

I'm wondering if, in perhaps .htaccess, one could allow ONLY site
crawlers access to the robots.txt file.  Then add robots.txt to
robots.txt...would this mitigate some of the risk?

1. It's still missing the point.
2. No, it wouldn't work in case of scanners that try to impersonate robots.
--
gynvael.coldwind//vx

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