Re: Privilege escalation on Windows using Binary Planting

[GloW - XD <doomxd () gmail com>]

I agree. I am only talking of the scenario where this service is
pre-installed.

But before it was all about 3rd party addons wich run as a service... it is
not happening, i can tell u this from many yrs of exp with windows, it wont
happen.
MS will not rewrite sdks,ddks,its whole stdafx/msdn architecture for coding,
because of 3rd party addons..
cheers.
xd



On 26 September 2011 11:41, Madhur Ahuja <ahuja.madhur () gmail com> wrote:

> I agree. I am only talking of the scenario where this service is
> pre-installed.
>
>
> On Monday, September 26, 2011, Thor (Hammer of God) wrote:
>
> >  You'd have to be admin to install as a service, and the service would
> > obviously need to then be running as local system to be of benefit (beyond
> > what a normal user could do anyway) AND the installer would have to grant a
> > normal user rights to overwrite it.
> >
> >  Certainly possible, but the developer would have to go out of their way
> > to screw that up. And if they did, it still wouldn't be because of the OS...
> >
> >  T
> >
> >
> > On Sep 25, 2011, at 6:18 PM, "Travis Biehn" <tbiehn () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> >   GloW: there's a lot of 3rd party software that installs itself as
> > windows services.
> >
> >  -Travis
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:15 PM, GloW - XD <doomxd () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > Haha , too good and too true thor !
> >
> >
> > Maybe he can trick the user into installing on a FAT32 partition first,
> > and THEN get the to execute from a remote share!
> >
> >  Rofl x10.
> >
> > Agreed , this kind of attack, is NOT deasible in 2011, try maybe, 2006.
> >
> > Anyhow it has been a pleasure, ending this BS i think once and for all,
> > lookup how winlogon works for one thing, then look at how windows creates
> > and maintains a service_table, and then at the dlls, wich are protected ofc,
> > you cannot touch msgina.dll,without ALOT of help from a rootkit or something
> > similar, in wich case, why would you need to ?
> > You could add an admin, hidden, and in simple batfile script (yes i do
> > have my own code but no it is not for kids..), this is 10seconds and hidden,
> > so when you have gotten that far, why would you bother to hijack a dll ?
> >
> > You CANNOT do crap,without complete ADMIN not SYSTEm, ADMIN$ share, and
> > total axcs to all sockets, meaning, all pipe control and thats where half of
> > windows exchanges smb shares for one thing, you guys dont seem to know CRAP
> > about windows to start with, then have the gall to raise such a frigging
> > ridiculous topic about a non happening, YOUTUBE ONE 'real' event, of this
> > being useful, or, even just working, and i would look but, you wont, cannot,
> > and will never be able to, especially on newer systems of windows7-8.
> > As i said earlier, enjoy your bs DFLL hijacking, but ms, dont care for it,
> > and whatever patches they instilled, dont touch even service_table.. so,
> > they have not given it a high prio,and why shuld they.
> >
> > This is simply a case of a secteam gaining notoriety, to try and make this
> > a 'big bug!!' , to try and gain brownie points from MS. Even tho, i dont
> > believe in many things MS, I know windows system, and how to break it,
> > better than many people, and i can tell you now, this whole DLL hijack, is a
> > complete and utter waste of your times.
> > But... keep on going, maybe MS will send you another 'thankyou' email ;)
> > xd / <http://crazycoders.com>crazycoders.com / #haxnet@Ef
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 26 September 2011 10:52, Thor (Hammer of God) <thor () hammerofgod com>wrote:
> >
> >  Maybe he can trick the user into installing on a FAT32 partition first,
> > and THEN get the to execute from a remote share!
> >
> > On Sep 25, 2011, at 5:30 PM, "Travis Biehn" <tbiehn () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> >   It might be a fun experiment to see what DLLs they're looking for :.)
> >
> >
> > -Travis
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:57 PM, <kz20fl () googlemail com> wrote:
> >
> > To replace a service executable you usually need administrator access
> > anyway.
> >
> >
> > ------Original Message------
> > From: Madhur Ahuja
> > Sender:
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