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Re: Encrypted files and the 5th amendment


From: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists () tx rr com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:20:45 -0500

Considering the fact that the US government no longer believes that the 
Constitution applies to them, I suspect they can do whatever they want.

--On July 12, 2011 4:57:22 PM +0000 "Thor (Hammer of God)" 
<thor () hammerofgod com> wrote:



I would imagine so.  Do you know of people actually being prosecuted for
not turning over keys?  How does the “I forgot” defense work over
there?



t





From: Chris Harries [mailto:chris.harries () omnicommediagroup com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 9:56 AM
To: Thor (Hammer of God); full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
Subject: RE: Encrypted files and the 5th amendment



Yes and people have refused to




From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of Thor
(Hammer of God)
Sent: 12 July 2011 17:52
To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Encrypted files and the 5th amendment



I’m sure many of us will be following this closely:



http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20078312-281/doj-we-can-force-you-to-de
crypt-that-laptop/



I understand that in the UK, one can be prosecuted for not turning over
actual encryption keys to .gov -  Is that correct?



T



There’s no reason to think “outside the box”

if you don’t think yourself into it.



Order “Thor’s Microsoft Security Bible”





Timothy Thor Mullen
http://www.hammerofgod.com




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As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions
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renounced the use of reason as to administer
medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson
"There are some ideas so wrong that only a very
intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell

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