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Re: Open Letter to Lee Vartan, Assistant United States Attorney in regards to the Goatse Security iPad case.

From: Michal <michal () sharescope co uk>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:29:38 +0000
Are we done?? The pair of you?? Yes??

Good, move on

On 18/11/10 11:19, huj huj huj wrote:

the pot calling the kettle black?
lol you are becoming increasingly delusional
maybe you should go back to eating out hepkitten
its no wonder your parents gave up on you..
2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony () gmail com <mailto:gluttony () gmail com>> 

    You're getting really incoherent. Do you need some ESL classes?
    Perhaps you should contact one of those commercial services that write
    college papers for lazy students to draft your FD troll posts.

    On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:12 AM, huj huj huj <datskihuj () gmail com
    <mailto:datskihuj () gmail com>> wrote:
    > i didnt get the info from hepkitten? i dont see where you got
    that fact from
    > what i said was that hepkitten ousted you from bantown
    > maybe if you learned how to read your life would be easier..
    > white hat security researcher my ass
    > is phishing myspace and livejournal accounts through lame memes
    whitehat? i
    > doubt it..
    > get a grip and pull that dildo out of your ass you retard
    >
    > 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony () gmail com
    <mailto:gluttony () gmail com>>
    >>
    >> I have never denied the extensive production of politically
    motivated
    >> art I have produced, including the iProphet. I will continue making
    >> such compelling art to evoke emotion in my audiences.
    >>
    >> Regardless, the empirical evidence points to me being:
    >>
    >> * An anti-organized crime and anti-child pornography activist, a
    >> practice which I have been engaging in for years upon years. I have
    >> extensive evidence of merit to back this up and can say it under
    >> penalty of perjury.
    >> * A consumer rights advocate and white hat security researcher,
    >> something I have been cited by other respected researchers and won
    >> awards for public service for:
    >>
    >>
    http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/14/were-awarding-goatse-security-a-crunchie-award-for-public-service/
    >>
    >> and your idea of a reliable source of information is... hepkitten?
    >> Clearly the only joke here is you, buddy.
    >>
    >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:03 AM, huj huj huj
    <datskihuj () gmail com <mailto:datskihuj () gmail com>> wrote:
    >> > of course you didn't... and you also don't have a beard and
    post lame
    >> > rants
    >> > as the iprophet :)
    >> > as for me eating fecal matter, you're just envious
    >> >
    >> > you are not fighting anything other than your anonymity and
    empty wallet
    >> >
    >> > stop pretending otherwise nobody believes your silly little
    lies and
    >> > misconceptions anyway
    >> >
    >> > you and the rest of your losercrew can go suck a lemon
    >> >
    >> > you were never anything.. hell hepkitten ousted you lol
    >> >
    >> > loser
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony () gmail com
    <mailto:gluttony () gmail com>>
    >> >>
    >> >> I never made those statements. They seem particularly
    ridiculous and
    >> >> not even remotely in my rhetorical style. But for the sake of
    >> >> argument, I have IRC logs showing that you're a degenerate
    shit eater:
    >> >>
    >> >> 01:42 < Hujhujhuj> last night I got a train run on me in a
    sling at a
    >> >> pozzing party
    >> >> 01:42 < Hujhujhuj> i loved having an ass packed full of semen
    >> >> 01:42 < Hujhujhuj> after it was done 4 hairy bears shit on
    my chest
    >> >> 01:44 < Hujhujhuj> i packed the delicious feces into my
    mouth and i
    >> >> loved every single scrumptious bite
    >> >> 01:46 < Hujhujhuj> im going to get tested later today, i
    hope its poz,
    >> >> ive been trying for ages
    >> >>
    >> >> What do you have to say for yourself?
    >> >>
    >> >> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:42 AM, huj huj huj
    <datskihuj () gmail com <mailto:datskihuj () gmail com>>
    >> >> wrote:
    >> >> > ah sorry it was 8k owned macs you wanted to sell to the
    russians..
    >> >> > how very patriotic of you!!
    >> >> > cunt :)
    >> >> >
    >> >> > 09:50 <weev> i gotta get some money
    >> >> > 09:50 <weev> my cashflow sucks
    >> >> > 09:51 <weev> whores
    >> >> > 09:51 <weev> lavish cars
    >> >> > 09:51 <weev> gigantic places to live
    >> >> >
    >> >> > 15:05 <weev> does anybody know these russians
    >> >> > 15:06 <weev> that they are buying up hacked macs for 43
    cents an
    >> >> > install
    >> >> > 15:26 <weev> i have access to like
    >> >> > 15:26 <weev> 8k rooted macs
    >> >> > 15:26 <weev> right now
    >> >> > 15:26 <weev> and i would like to make a quick $3500
    >> >> >
    >> >> >
    >> >> > 2010/11/18 huj huj huj <datskihuj () gmail com
    <mailto:datskihuj () gmail com>>
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> yeah takes one to know one
    >> >> >> you have always been a nobody chasing fame with silly
    memes and
    >> >> >> smalltime
    >> >> >> trolling
    >> >> >> you keep talking about what others have done
    >> >> >> well i save starving children in africa
    >> >> >> i singlehandedly removed all german pedophiles from
    pattaya in 2009
    >> >> >> i stopped the cold war between usa and cccp
    >> >> >> i could go on but i already copied your silly lies too much
    >> >> >> let me recap
    >> >> >> you have done absolutely nothing to help anyone but yourself
    >> >> >> you are a greedy delusional drugaddict(hey i like drugs
    too but be
    >> >> >> realistic)
    >> >> >> all you want is fame for your shattered ego
    >> >> >> if you weren't such a joke you would make me sick
    >> >> >> have a nice day :)
    >> >> >>
    >> >> >> 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony () gmail com
    <mailto:gluttony () gmail com>>
    >> >> >>>
    >> >> >>> Yawn, another nobody continuing to libel me. I've never
    performed
    >> >> >>> any
    >> >> >>> such thing, nor attempted to sell trojaned computers.
    Continuing to
    >> >> >>> assert blatant falsehoods only lends credence to my
    case. Who are
    >> >> >>> you?
    >> >> >>> What have you done that means anything or helps the world?
    >> >> >>>
    >> >> >>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:24 AM, huj huj huj
    <datskihuj () gmail com <mailto:datskihuj () gmail com>>
    >> >> >>> wrote:
    >> >> >>> > "and keeping US citizens safe from Russian and Chinese
    organized
    >> >> >>> > crime"
    >> >> >>> >
    >> >> >>> > "Beyond this, I can't tell you the number of chink and
    russki
    >> >> >>> > botnet
    >> >> >>> > CNCs
    >> >> >>> > we've popped over the years. As soon as the federales
    give back
    >> >> >>> > our
    >> >> >>> > illegally stolen machines, I'll give you all the
    evidence you
    >> >> >>> > want
    >> >> >>> > of
    >> >> >>> > it.
    >> >> >>> > We have years and years of good public service under
    our belts.
    >> >> >>> > Do
    >> >> >>> > you?"
    >> >> >>> >
    >> >> >>> > hahahahaha you're simply too funny
    >> >> >>> >
    >> >> >>> > what you mean is you dumped your own shitty trojan on
    their
    >> >> >>> > systems
    >> >> >>> > (the
    >> >> >>> > ones you couldnt sell...)
    >> >> >>> >
    >> >> >>> > we all remember your rant about having 3k mac osx
    machines for
    >> >> >>> > sale
    >> >> >>> >
    >> >> >>> > fucking retard you're forgetting that information on
    the internet
    >> >> >>> > doesnt go
    >> >> >>> > away
    >> >> >>> >
    >> >> >>> > you are a joke and you make me laugh
    >> >> >>> >
    >> >> >>> >
    >> >> >>> > keep it up :)
    >> >> >>> >
    >> >> >>> >
    >> >> >>> >
    >> >> >>> > 2010/11/18 Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony () gmail com
    <mailto:gluttony () gmail com>>
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >> "The reality is that you are inconsequential to
    security because
    >> >> >>> >> you
    >> >> >>> >> are a script kiddie."
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >> Perhaps you are confused as to what this term means.
    Script
    >> >> >>> >> kiddies
    >> >> >>> >> are people who do not produce innovation of their
    own, and
    >> >> >>> >> solely
    >> >> >>> >> run
    >> >> >>> >> things downloaded from Packetstorm. I have repeatedly
    stood up
    >> >> >>> >> and
    >> >> >>> >> done unique things to advance my nation, not just in
    information
    >> >> >>> >> security but in an interdisciplinary manner. As far as my
    >> >> >>> >> accomplishments in information security, I recently
    watched one
    >> >> >>> >> of
    >> >> >>> >> Samy Kamkar's presentations at Blackhat that cites
    our group
    >> >> >>> >> repeatedly. One of our advisories is mentioned in his
    slides:
    >> >> >>> >> http://i.imgur.com/YIl9I.jpg
    >> >> >>> >> and he also states that cross-protocol scripting was
    "made big"
    >> >> >>> >> by
    >> >> >>> >> us.
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >> What about Robert Hansen/RSnake? He said "I don’t see
    anyone
    >> >> >>> >> outside
    >> >> >>> >> of a handful of people, like Weev, Wade Alcorn, Samy
    Kumkar,
    >> >> >>> >> Aaron
    >> >> >>> >> Weaver and myself doing this kind of research.
    There’s literally
    >> >> >>> >> thousands of potentially exploitable services out
    there!" --
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >>
    http://ha.ckers.org/blog/20100329/safari-integer-overflow-aids-inter-protocol-exploitation/
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >> RSnake is well respected in the security community.
    Does he
    >> >> >>> >> suddenly
    >> >> >>> >> not know what he's talking about just for recognizing the
    >> >> >>> >> validity
    >> >> >>> >> of
    >> >> >>> >> my research? I have stacks of internal government memos
    >> >> >>> >> highlighting
    >> >> >>> >> the implications of stuff we've outlined-- clearly a
    number of
    >> >> >>> >> people
    >> >> >>> >> think the things that we're doing are notable and
    have real
    >> >> >>> >> world
    >> >> >>> >> implications.
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >> I do not post on this list looking for sympathy--
    quite the
    >> >> >>> >> opposite.
    >> >> >>> >> Unlike you, I believe in free speech, and even want
    to give my
    >> >> >>> >> deepest
    >> >> >>> >> critics a chance to hop into the dialogue.
    >> >> >>> >> Finally, your profession deserves to be cheapened.
    I've actually
    >> >> >>> >> attempted to innovate, and who are you? Oh yeah,
    you're some
    >> >> >>> >> dude
    >> >> >>> >> that
    >> >> >>> >> hits a button on Core Impact for a living. There are
    a number of
    >> >> >>> >> amazing individuals in the information security
    community doing
    >> >> >>> >> great
    >> >> >>> >> things, but for every one of them there's a hundred
    snake-oil
    >> >> >>> >> peddling
    >> >> >>> >> losers who are the real scriptkiddies. Though dated,
    the PHC
    >> >> >>> >> production of the same name rings true for
    individuals such as
    >> >> >>> >> yourself. Maybe you should read it and it'll
    challenge you to
    >> >> >>> >> actually
    >> >> >>> >> do something useful instead of tossing ad hominems on
    a mailing
    >> >> >>> >> list:
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >>
    http://antisec.wordpress.com/2005/12/18/hack4txt-a-phc-production-the-real-scriptkiddies/
    >> >> >>> >>
    >> >> >>> >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 9:10 PM, R S
    >> >> >>> >> <fifteenfourtyone () gmail com
    <mailto:fifteenfourtyone () gmail com>>
    >> >> >>> >> wrote:
    >> >> >>> >> >
    >> >> >>> >> > Speaking for only myself, I could care less about your
    >> >> >>> >> > personal /
    >> >> >>> >> > political views. The reality is you are
    inconsequential to
    >> >> >>> >> > security
    >> >> >>> >> > because
    >> >> >>> >> > you are a script kiddie. I had read articles about your
    >> >> >>> >> > various
    >> >> >>> >> > high
    >> >> >>> >> > profile
    >> >> >>> >> > 'trolling' incidents before, but until your asinine
    post here
    >> >> >>> >> > had
    >> >> >>> >> > never
    >> >> >>> >> > bothered to research you. What I've read was
    nothing but
    >> >> >>> >> > humorous.
    >> >> >>> >> > At one
    >> >> >>> >> > point you claim to hate bloggers, yet in a pre Web
    2.0 world,
    >> >> >>> >> > you
    >> >> >>> >> > and your
    >> >> >>> >> > Encyclopedia Dramatica generation script kiddies
    would have no
    >> >> >>> >> > notoriety at
    >> >> >>> >> > all. Nobody would care about your bizarre high
    profile cries
    >> >> >>> >> > for
    >> >> >>> >> > attention,
    >> >> >>> >> > and personally, I certainly don't.
    >> >> >>> >> > You are a troll and a script kiddie. Your whiney
    rants have no
    >> >> >>> >> > place
    >> >> >>> >> > on
    >> >> >>> >> > a mailing list for the security community. I'm sure
    the kids
    >> >> >>> >> > that
    >> >> >>> >> > support
    >> >> >>> >> > you on various forums eat your crap up, but you
    will find
    >> >> >>> >> > little
    >> >> >>> >> > sympathy
    >> >> >>> >> > here. You claim constantly to hunt pedophiles,
    thats great.
    >> >> >>> >> > Somehow
    >> >> >>> >> > I'm sure
    >> >> >>> >> > most people in prison have done good in their lives
    as well as
    >> >> >>> >> > bad.
    >> >> >>> >> > Hopefully, if my tax dollars do their job, you will
    have
    >> >> >>> >> > plenty
    >> >> >>> >> > of
    >> >> >>> >> > time in
    >> >> >>> >> > the near future to contemplate all of this in jail.
    >> >> >>> >> > Grow up kiddo. Personally I resent how you and your ilk
    >> >> >>> >> > cheapen
    >> >> >>> >> > this
    >> >> >>> >> > profession, and applaud law enforcement for doing
    their job.
    >> >> >>> >> >
    >> >> >>> >> >
    >> >> >>> >> > R
    >> >> >>> >> >
    >> >> >>> >> >
    >> >> >>> >> > From: Andrew Auernheimer <gluttony () gmail com>
    >> >> >>> >> > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:06:02 -0600
    >> >> >>> >> > ________________________________
    >> >> >>> >> >
    >> >> >>> >> > Troy,
    >> >> >>> >> >
    >> >> >>> >> > As with many of my critics, you insist on
    attempting to libel
    >> >> >>> >> > me
    >> >> >>> >> > and
    >> >> >>> >> > defame
    >> >> >>> >> > my character (clearly having an objection to my
    political
    >> >> >>> >> > views)
    >> >> >>> >> > instead
    >> >> >>> >> > of
    >> >> >>> >> > honestly debating the merits of my actions and the
    reality of
    >> >> >>> >> > my
    >> >> >>> >> > many
    >> >> >>> >> > well-received research contributions. I take ad hominem
    >> >> >>> >> > attacks
    >> >> >>> >> > like
    >> >> >>> >> > yours
    >> >> >>> >> > in stride with the civility and grace befitting of
    a Christian
    >> >> >>> >> > man,
    >> >> >>> >> > and
    >> >> >>> >> > urge
    >> >> >>> >> > you to think more critically before you say more
    things that
    >> >> >>> >> > will embarrass you in front of your peers.
    >> >> >>> >> >
    >> >> >>> >> > "You see no evidence of"
    >> >> >>> >> >
    >> >> >>> >> > Your implication that because you have not seen
    evidence of
    >> >> >>> >> > something it
    >> >> >>> >> > has
    >> >> >>> >> > not happened is fallacious. Regardless, I will
    enlighten you
    >> >> >>> >> > with
    >> >> >>> >> > some
    >> >> >>> >> > history of our anti-pedophile activity (with links to
    >> >> >>> >> > backdated
    >> >> >>> >> > posts
    >> >> >>> >> > pedophile posts detailing our successes against their
    >> >> >>> >> > infrastructure
    >> >> >>> >> > and
    >> >> >>> >> > payment systems, emails with full headers and
    evidence of
    >> >> >>> >> > ongoing
    >> >> >>> >> > pedophile
    >> >> >>> >> > activity), some of which predates the iPad incident
    by years.
    >> >> >>> >> >  You
    >> >> >>> >> > haven't
    >> >> >>> >> > seen any evidence of it because we, unlike many
    people, do not
    >> >> >>> >> > wear
    >> >> >>> >> > every
    >> >> >>> >> > bit of public service we do on our sleeve. We live
    in the
    >> >> >>> >> > spirit
    >> >> >>> >> > of
    >> >> >>> >> > Matthew
    >> >> >>> >> > 6:6.
    >> >> >>> >> >
    >> >> >>> >> >
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