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Re: Allegations regarding OpenBSD IPSEC


From: malfy <malfy () nophop net>
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 00:50:25 +1100

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:45:13AM -0500, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 23:26:25 +1100, Abuse007 said:

Changing the s-boxes in DES (and therefore Triple DES as well) would break
comparability with other implementations as it would no longer decrypt the same
as a standard implementation.

Not if you managed to tweak the s-boxes while DES was still being designed.

It's been known for years that while IBM was designing DES, they had some talks
with the NSA, and the rumor was that NSA convinced them to tweak the s-boxes to
allow a backdoor.  Recently, it was revealed that the NSA *did* give advice
about the S-boxes, but it was because the IBM guys had independently come up
with the concept of differential cryptanalysis, which the NSA knew about but
nobody else did at that time.  So NSA gave IBM some hints how to design the
s-boxes to harden it against differential cryptanalysis.

Or so they said. :)

There are no cryptographic S-Box backdoors in AES, I haven't verified
this myself, it's on the agenda, but there have been many comb searches
through the DES algorithm.

~malfy

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