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Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future]
From: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <thor () hammerofgod com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:30:26 -0300
On Friday 28 August 2009 08:29:48 Thor (Hammer of God) wrote:Maybe I'm not saying it properly... (and I won't belabor the point anymore). If you want a password instead of a click, then set it to "prompt for credentials" rather than "prompt for consent" for *administrators*.Understood. I also understand you can set up Vista to use normal users. My objection is to Microsoft's default behavior.
This now makes more sense after further reading the following from you:
We basically agree on the main point: Separate user andadministratoraccounts are better. I wonder if Micosoft will start enforcingthat?The "wonder if MSFT will start enforcing that" is already answered -theydo, and HAVE been. Even with XP you could "run as administrator." Iusedto do it all the time. I actually like the UAC in Vista/Win7 betteras itgives seamless admin capabilities while interactively logged on as anormaluser.There is a difference between being able to do something, and enforcing it. The OS on my machines will not allow a person to run an administrative desktop. It enforces the separation between the administrator and a normal user by requiring the creation of at least one normal user at install. Only that normal user can log in.
Oh, now that's cool. I didn't know that. The "force to create a normal user and only use that" was not something I was aware of. What's the OS? So, even if you wanted to, you couldn't log on as administrator and just do whatever you needed to? I'm not sure if I like that, but I assume this is customizable behavior, yes?
Microsoft encourages the opposite behavior by default. I know of no Vista home user who runs as a normal user. I guess it's good we had this conversation; I got to meet someone who sets up Windows properly on his personal machines. ;)
Absolutely - and I learned something about other default options on other OS's too ;) t
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- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future], (continued)
- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future] Peter Besenbruch (Aug 27)
- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future] Rohit Patnaik (Aug 27)
- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future] Thor (Hammer of God) (Aug 27)
- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future] Rob Thompson (Aug 27)
- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future] Thor (Hammer of God) (Aug 28)
- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future] Peter Besenbruch (Aug 27)
- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future] Thor (Hammer of God) (Aug 28)
- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future] Peter Besenbruch (Aug 28)
- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future] Thor (Hammer of God) (Aug 28)
- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future] Peter Besenbruch (Aug 28)
- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future] Thor (Hammer of God) (Aug 28)
- Re: [Fwd: Re: windows future] Peter Besenbruch (Aug 28)
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