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Re: [inbox] Re: Supporters urge halt to, hacker's, extradition to US
From: n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:48:51 +0100
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Exibar <exibar () thelair com> wrote:
Look, Mckinnon broke into the computer systems.
He never broke in, the door was open, he walked in.
Under his own admission he ran scripts to help him do this. Some of those scripts crashed systems. He possibly deleted files and what-not in his travels, either willfully or not, doesn't really matter. He loaded software on those systems so he could get in AGAIN easier... AND he leaves a note threatening that he will do it again.
Proof or GTFO.
All this on KNOWN government computer systems. He intentionally wanted to get into these systems to look for UFO crap.
He walked in, because the systems were 'public domain', he didn't break in to anything.
This goes way beyond just simply leaving a note stating that your door is unlocked. This is going into the unlocked car, putting in a remote control door opener, and threatening to re-enter the car again.
The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open.
He knew what he was doing, he knew who's machines he was doing it to, he was obviously going to keep doing it until caught by the sound of his message.
The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open.
He's a criminal, period. He should be properly tried in a court of law. The way the UK an dthe US law is written, that means extradited to the US for a trial.
The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open.
All the protesting or debating won't change the fact that he's a criminal. Plain and simple, deal with it.... His sentence will be based upon what comes up in court, and it hardly ever is the maximum. Exibar
The systems were 'public domain' because the door was open. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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