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Re: ANNOUNCE - RFIDIOt version 0.1t released


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:42:35 -0400

On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:16:43 BST, A.L.M.Buxey () lboro ac uk said:
...unless its easy of cheap/free to break the non invasive or
damaging 'laws' (eg copyright infringemnt) - many many people
who tread the right side are quick to grab a free DVD copied
via a mate...or run azureus or bitcomet et al on their PC
to get a few nice freebies.

However, at least *some* hardware is needed, and I'm not expecting those
who possess the hardware needed will be doing it for free for enough people
for it to matter, and the number of people willing to pay for use/rental
will be low enough to not matter either.

to be seen.  so. why buy a ticket? well, I'm not familiar
with the local charges and fines...so i didnt attempt
to find out
...
the fares were very cheap..and i did note a few people
who just slipped on board and didnt pay.

Exactly.  If the number of freeloaders is "a few people", there really isn't
much reason to deploy much of an actual security system, as the system will
cost more than the recovered revenue.

Berlin's trains are cheap, so not much security is needed at all.
UK they're more expensive, to the point where putting a ticket inspector
on each train is cost-effective (note that the inspector is mostly a deterrent,
changing the cost/benefit analysis for people who were thinking of freeloading).

Remember - the security doesn't need to be perfect - it merely needs to be
good enough to be cost-effective.

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