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Re: "what have you released..."
From: Mary and Glenn Everhart <Everhart () gce com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:58:53 -0400
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Re: Let's make a spy-proof communications infrastructure (Jubei Trippataka) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:49:08 +0100 From: n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> Subject: [Full-disclosure] Fwd: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora'sBox of To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Message-ID: <4b6ee9310806291549w40aefeebqde4c3b5ace15895d () mail gmail com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Classic Gadi Evron Gayness! He's currently trolling the I.S.P community via NANOG mailing list. "Because the Internet is not governemned, common misbelief aside. It's a mess of capitalism and anarchism. In fact, The Internet is the only functioning anarchu." Hilarious TROLLING effort by Gadi, keep up the good work. All the best, n3td3v ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org> Date: Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:42 PM Subject: Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora'sBox of To: Jim Popovitch <yahoo () jimpop com> Cc: nanog () nanog org On Sun, 29 Jun 2008, Jim Popovitch wrote:On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Peter Beckman <beckman () angryox com> wrote:Let the search engines organize the web, not DNS.OK, (assuming you believe that), why keep dns around. Why not go back to just IP addrs and hosts files for those that need them.Because the Internet is not governemned, common misbelief aside. It's a mess of capitalism and anarchism. In fact, The Internet is the only functioning anarchu. I see no reason why search engines won't, they already do, whether we want to admit it or not, for the home user they ARE the Internet. Gadi. -Jim P.-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080629/e0723779/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:30:54 -0400 From: "Th3 M0ths" <th3.m0ths () gmail com> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Gadi Evron is a troll To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Message-ID: <1204677e0806291630j7b1045f0tff319c05dfa1f286 () mail gmail com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Homosapien? I'm pretty sure he is a human. On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 2:39 PM, n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> wrote:On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:29 PM, Ureleet <ureleet () gmail com> wrote:dont start, you were just getting good!What do you mean getting good, i've been good the whole time homo! All the best, n3td3v2008/6/29 n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com>:Gadi Evron is a troll _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:04:42 +0100 From: n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> Subject: [Full-disclosure] Save Gary Mckinnon To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Message-ID: <4b6ee9310806291904w5b139d9bk923bada99cf0a7d9 () mail gmail com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Gary Mckinnon is going to be locked away for 64 years for doing a default password scan of the U.S military. We need to save this guys life, yes he was stupid, yes he was dumb, yes he shouldn't have done it. He is a weirdo who tried to find out about UFO research within military ranks, should we send Gary Mckinnon away the same as a suicide bomber terrorist? The U.S military are going to make an example of this man, an example that is unjust, we need to save Gary, save Gary... save Gary! All the best, n3td3v -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20080630/7c328d1b/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:35:08 +1000 From: "Jubei Trippataka" <vpn.1.fanatic () gmail com> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Let's make a spy-proof communications infrastructure To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Message-ID: <1c27cb9a0806292035s2aac3c27k73d68decd87d7d90 () mail gmail com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"Yes as i've been saying already the intelligence services for years like MI5, MI6 have been laughing at Full-Disclosure for years about us and the media getting excited about internet explorer, fire fox, opera, safari drama and the other likes. While that may be stimulating for some, it hasn't chipped a single inch out of the government and the intelligence services. The biggest government hack of all time? Some faggot weirdo called Gary Mckinnon probing the Pentagon and other government networks with a text file of manufacturer default passwords, and he is about to be extradited to the U.S.A for it and be put in jail for 65 years, lmao!!! The government are laughing their asses off at how softcore the world elite hackers are, we need to crank up a gear and give the government something to think about. I'm not talking about anything illegal or breaking the law, i'm talking about lawful critical vulnerability discosure on the mailing lists thats going to make the intelligence services and the government wake up and bring real credibility to the mailing list. Right now, folks releasing quicktime flaws and other gay shit, thats so 1999, its time to research and disclose stuff thats going to get you stopped at passport control and have your vulnerability research taken off you for analysis when you plan to do a speech at a security conference etc. Like say, we need to move away from gay shit, and think about the government and the intelligence services, they are currently walking all over all of us, its time to get even technically. All the best, n3td3vPut your money where your mouth is. What have you released that will make the government respect this list? Secondly, what does FD and the "world of elite hackers" have in common? Nothing.
I might ask the same question of others. I have released encrypting virtual disks and a distributed multilevel secure kernel (back in 1979) with sources published back then. I have released code for extended authorization controls with a half decent initial approach to controlling mobile code, back in the 1990s again with source code. I have described a few generic defenses against injection attacks and buffer overflows. No matter; this is pointless. Reciting lists of old software (or hardware) is IMO only useful where contemporary problems might be addressed by that software or its methods (or perhaps when some Johnny come lately tries to patent ideas published decades before). However the personal attacks are childish and of no interest to me (or, I suspect, to very many others) and distract from the technical question which in this case I tried to pose and which I meant for serious consideration. It is easy to offer opinions about some political issue. It is not so easy to offer designs. Yet designs for a communication system that will vitiate surveillance and frustrate control freaks may be a great value to all. Publishing THAT kind of article will impress, and deserve honor and praise. If you must think of such as a form of hacking, think of it as hacking whole government agencies all at once, or hacking scores of fraudsters, again all at once. But can we have technical commentary? Or is this the wrong group? thanks Glenn Everhart _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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