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Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites
From: William McAfee <sec-community () thegoodhacker com>
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 17:32:16 -0400
I would like to point out one of the websites where the Russian side of things appears to be collaborating. I have no reason to believe the Russian government is actively performing visible consequence attacks on Georgia. If the Russian government actually is performing attacks, it is most likely SIGINT work, backend communications disruption, etc. On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 16:20 -0400, Static Rez wrote:
The only cyber wars going on in government are probably done discreetly without any side even knowing it's occuring. it's called SPYING. But i do not, personally, have any proof of this. sr. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Radoslav Dejanović <radoslav.dejanovic () opsus hr> wrote: Paul Ferguson wrote: > Also, I wish to say: > > "It is clear that there are anti-Georgian forces at work on the > Internet." > > "Who they are, and what their motivations are 9at this point), > remains to be seen." Just for the record... There were in the past several such "cyber wars" between Croatia and Serbia, with the scenario not quite unlike this one. The scenario is as follows: 1. there's some political tension between countries; 2. someone on one side decides that it would be highly patriotic to attack servers on the other side; 3. someone on the other side retaliates by attacking other country's servers; 4. more individuals join in, adding to the magnitude of the event; clueless media joins in with headlines like "brave local patriots are hacking the (evil) other side into oblivion; we have won the real war, we're going to win this one too"; 5. governments do not quite understand what is going on, but they do not intervene because they can get some political points out of that mess (cracked government web pages are collateral damage and in fact good for propaganda); 6. after some time, the "cyberwar" ceases. IMHO, what is going on in Georgia is a scenario like the one above. I don't think there's any real cyberwar between governments going on, but in fact local groups of people who believe that they're showing their patriotism. Therefore: - who they are: groups of individuals, not a state operated force - what are their motivations: showing patriotism and having a "legitimate" target to practice "cyberwar", as nobody is going to prosecute a patriotic attack on enemy country's infrastructure. - how to end it: it will end by itself. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites Paul Ferguson (Aug 11)
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- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites Paul Ferguson (Aug 11)
- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites John C. A. Bambenek, GCIH, CISSP (Aug 11)
- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites n3td3v (Aug 11)
- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 11)
- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites Robert Marquardt (Aug 11)
- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites n3td3v (Aug 11)
- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites John C. A. Bambenek, GCIH, CISSP (Aug 11)
- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites Gadi Evron (Aug 13)
- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites Radoslav Dejanović (Aug 15)
- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites Static Rez (Aug 17)
- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites William McAfee (Aug 17)
- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites William McAfee (Aug 17)
- Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian web sites Gadi Evron (Aug 13)