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Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- trymedical research...
From: gjgowey () tmo blackberry net
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:42:12 +0000
Try cyanide. Faster, better, cheaper, and long lasting. Geoff Sent from my BlackBerry wireless handheld. -----Original Message----- From: "Joel R. Helgeson" <joel () helgeson com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:29:51 To:"'M. Shirk'" <shirkdog_list () hotmail com> Cc:full-disclosure () lists grok org uk, dailydave () lists immunitysec com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Actually; If you find the cure, you can make a buck -- ONLY IF YOU CAN PATENT IT! People are not interested in researching diseases that are not profitable... for those patients, treating the symptoms is more profitable. You, the patient, or the family member must become the doctor. Fortunately, I have possibly your answer, and if not, at least a direction to take. Go to www.vitaganza.com and purchase WOBENZYM It is THE BEST NUTRITIONAL SUPPLEMENT in existence, don't even bother with substitutes. This is an enzyme supplement that has 5 top-tier enzymes that when ingested, they proceed to break down longer protein chains and turn them into enzymes. This ultimately creates a cascading effect of creating over 2000 separate enzymes that then go through your body and fix damage, so back pain, muscle pain, knots in your back, surgery... this helps fix ALL DAMAGE in your body (Damage that is possible to repair). Every cell in your body, every nerve fiber, everything requires enzymes to function. The Cartilage in your body is the largest avascular, aneural and alymphatic tissue in your body. It is kept alive by being bathed in enzymes (anyhow, I digress). Kristian, I have hacked problems like this before, Wobenzym will help both your brother and your friend. It may not be the silver bullet but it will definitely help, no question about that. Gaucher's Disease: Enzyme Replacement Therapy (WOBENZYM) Enzyme replacement therapy for lysosomal storage diseases did not become a reality until the early 1990s when its safety and effectiveness were demonstrated in type 1 Gaucher disease. Today, ERT is a reality for Gaucher disease, Fabry disease and mucopolysaccharidosis type I (MPS I), and clinical trials with recombinant human enzymes are ongoing in Pompe disease. LCH: Wobenzym will help, but what may help even more is Guaifenesin tablets. THIS IS NOT A REPLACEMENT FOR TRADITIONAL THERAPY, keep going to the doc, and take this stuff. http://www.guaifenesin.com/guaishop.htm If you want to hack the problem, you need to be willing to be the guinea pig, the lab rat. Seek the care of licensed, trained doctors as you normally would, but don't listen to the pooh-poohing they give on natural, nutritional, or over-the-counter remedies. I personally take both Wobenzym and Guaifenesin to overcome some serious ailments that were "uncurable" by modern medicine, and was forced to medicate the symptoms. I hope this information helps you, and helps other people on the list who see this. -joel -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of Simon Smith Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 1:18 PM To: M. Shirk Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk; dailydave () lists immunitysec com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Just like technology research (hacking)... but... if you are the one that finds a cure, you'll make your buck too. M. Shirk wrote:
There is more money to be made in the treatment of a disease, then actually finding a cure. Remind you of anything? Shirkdog ' or 1=1-- http://www.shirkdog.usDate: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:37:20 -0700 From: kristian.hermansen () gmail com To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk; dailydave () lists immunitysec com Subject: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Some interesting discussion came up on some security lists this week and it got me to thinking. Yes, hacking software is lame. Cool, so you found some vulnerabilities in some widely distributed application, service, or OS and it is patched just as quickly. Why don't we spend our time and valuable energy researching cures for rare or popular diseases instead? For instance, my brother (Jon Hermansen) has a very rare disease called Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis. It is also better known as LCH. It can be identified as causing such further diseases as Diabetes Insipidus, which is also uncommon (not sugar diabetes). Have you heard of these diseases before? Let me educate you. General Information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell_histiocytosis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_insipidus Seven Part Video Series: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KkBRqZS8nfM http://youtube.com/watch?v=w1h6ZjxF-To http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ojbJpERlt8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzUqdYofMCQ http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNhzwNYhi0M http://youtube.com/watch?v=nY9DDEhShcE http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_8SEYyEZGI And even worse than this, a friend of mine who is a PhD student in Math at Berkeley has an even rarer disease known as Gaucher's Disease. This costs $550,000 / year to treat. That's a hefty bill every year (you make that much doing security vulns?), and some insurance companies might refuse to accept you due to "pre-existing" conditions. So guess what, my friend does not have health insurance and has not been treated for two years. A genius might die. That's ludicrous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucher's_disease http://youtube.com/watch?v=0nX6QM5iVaU If we consider ourselves decent "hackers", why don't we put our efforts toward helping cure this and other diseases rather than some very simple programming vulnerability? Is it because then we would have to reinvent a whole new slew of tools and re-orient/re-educate ourselves to be successful? Think about it. -- Kristian Erik Hermansen _______________________________________________ Dailydave mailing list Dailydave () lists immunitysec com http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave------------------------------------------------------------------------ More photos; more messages; more whatever - Get MORE with Windows LiveT HotmailR. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more!
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- Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Kristian Erik Hermansen (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... M. Shirk (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Simon Smith (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Joel R. Helgeson (Sep 23)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- trymedical research... gjgowey (Sep 23)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- trymedical research... scott (Sep 23)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- trymedical research... J.M. Seitz (Sep 23)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- trymedical research... scott (Sep 23)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Simon Smith (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... M. Shirk (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Kristian Erik Hermansen (Sep 21)
- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Jimby Sharp (Sep 22)
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- Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Jimby Sharp (Sep 22)
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