Re: Did people power get rid of Gadi Evron from Full-Disclosure?

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I haven't heard from Gadi since he called Turkey "a nation of
Muslim terrorists" on his blog.

Has anyone tried calling him?

703-286-7723, extension 110 .

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:43:20 -0400 worried security
<worriedsecurity () googlemail com> wrote:
> Did people power get rid of Gadi Evron from Full-Disclosure?
>
> The security researcher and robot network expert from Israel
> hasn't been
> seen on Full-Disclosure mailing list since the "What is a 0-day?"
> fallout
> between the researcher and members of the security community,
> including me,
> n3td3v.
>
> Concerns are growing in the security community over Evron's
> health, after a
> shocking exit from Full-Disclosure mailing list after mass
> arguments over
> his comments cross posted between Full-Disclosure and the
> moderated Bugtraq
> mailing list.
>
> On the n3td3v stance, n3td3v did not want Bugtraq moderators to
> broadcast
> his argument on the Securityfocus based mailing list, because it
> was deemed
> by n3td3v to be lame and on the bigger picture, the argument
> wasn't mission
> critical.
>
> n3td3v sees Bugtraq's role to be only for mission critical
> discussion to
> protect core infrastructure systems from cyber attacks where
> economic and
> public saftey could be at risk in relation with corporate and
> national
> security matters.
>
> While Gadi Evron was right to leave Full-Disclosure while tensions
> between
> security researchers calmed down, n3td3v is now offering Gadi
> Evron an olive
> branch to return to Full-Disclosure on the basis he keeps the lame
> chatter
> away from Bugtraq and focuses his career of mailing lists postings
> to be
> restricted to Full-Disclosure, Funsec, Nanog and any other mailing
> list
> accept Bugtraq.
>
> Unless he is posting an advisory on behalf of someone else under
> the
> SecuriTeam or BeyondSecurity brands, he has no place being on
> mission
> critical list Bugtraq at SecurityFocus.
>
> So Gadi Evron, no hard feelings, we don't hate you, we just wanted
> you not
> to discuss what you discussed on Bugtraq relating to "defining 0-
> day".
>
> At the time you may of thought it was a good idea but looking back
> you must
> see now how lame it was, unless you have mental health issues.
>
> I am your friend Gadi Evron, I respect your work as a robot
> network expert
> and I want you to return to Full-Disclosure.
>
> If you come back, I will offer you protection, protection to which
> I already
> offer to *Valdis*.Kletnieks.
>
> What I mean by protection is, if anyone says anything bad about
> you, I will
> defend you, as long as you're not being uber lame like you were on
> Bugtraq
> over the "defining 0-day" thread.
>
> So Gadi Evron, if you want freeway to speak on Full-Disclosure
> with n3td3v
> backing, I will make sure you get full protection from the
> trolls... its
> upto you.
>
> You can come back to Full-Disclosure and continue being attacked,
> or you can
> have my backing and your life will be a whole lot eaiser.
>
> If you return to Bugtraq with more uber lameness, then the deal
> will be cut
> short, and Full-Disclosure regulars will swallow you up whole.
>
> Remember Gadi Evron, power comes at a price and the price is you
> keep off
> Bugtraq or expect more public criticism by me, and no protection
> from me
> when others decide to criticize you,
>
> And don't under estimate the damage done to your self reputation
> already
> over matters, so I suggest you take this olive branch and return
> to
> Full-Disclosure discussing elite matters regarding cyber security
> and
> keeping off Bugtraq is a must see.
>
> To be in a position of power on the mailing lists requires the
> backing of
> n3td3v, and if you agree then you'll have full power backing by me
> to
> continue your cyber politcal agenda on the mailing lists, without
> n3td3v
> criticism.
>
> Thank you,
>
> n3td3v
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