Re: Who is n3td3v?

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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:09:03 -0500 "Alice Bryson
<abryson () bytefocus com>" <abryson () bytefocus com> wrote:
> It's OK anybody start vulnerability research from script(php or
> perl),
> but it's not good for someone to stay at "script kid" level, huh?
>
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> 2006/10/21, Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org>:
> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Dr. Neal Krawetz wrote:
> > > On Fri Oct 20 15:49:53 2006, Gadi Evron wrote:
> > > > Cool article, but n3td3v is not gobbles. For one, easy
> analysis shows he
> > > > is English.
> > > >
> > > >     Gadi.
> > >
> > > Thanks Gadi.
> > >
> > > However, I'm going to call you on this:
> > > 1. What "easy analysis" are you using?
> > >    I listed my approaches.  If you are using a different
> approach, I'd
> > >    like to hear what it is.  (I'm not trying to be
> argumentative -- I
> > >    want to learn.)
> > >
> > > 2. You said, "n3td3v is not gobbles".
> > >    Do you know for a fact that n3td3v is not Gobbles Security?
> > >    Or is this an interpretation?
> > >    If you know for a fact, then how do you know?
> > >
> > > On 1-Sep-2006, a new person controlling the n3td3v account
> appeared.
> > > He is likely English/Brit (based on the topics he posted).
> But I did not
> > > see enough text to analyze.
> > > The older n3td3v postings were by 3 people, not one person.
> > > (And primarily by three people -- a few postings were
> ambiguous and could
> > > indicate more people.)
> >
> > 1. He speaks Real English.
> > 2. He mentions UK currency.
> > 3. He said as much, speaking of UK issues.
> > 4. He gave his real name.
> >
> > Your analysis is amazing, and shows how these things should be
> done. But
> > misses that much. Gobbles was about fun, n3td3v took himself
> seriously
> > rather than just his goal of making the world a better place.
> >
> > Aside to that, yes, I know. But as I can't mention how, it's
> silly for me
> > to stick to anything but the above.
> >
> > > From the UK. Highly likely from the North of England or
> Scotland.
> > Did you ever talk to n3td3v or ask him? Behind all that posted,
> he really
> > seems like a good guy with good intentions.
> >
> > Your analysis really is good, but it comes to no conclusions. I
> want to
> > advoid the "yes he is" "no he isn't" discussion that's to
> follow. View my
> > comments as "opinion".
> >
> > Why idolize people?
> >
> >        Gadi.
> >
> > >                                       -Neal
> > > Neal Krawetz, Ph.D.
> > > Hacker Factor Solutions
> > > http://www.hackerfactor.com/
> > > Author of "Introduction to Network Security" (Charles River
> Media, 2006)
> > >
> http://www.charlesriver.com/Books/BookDetail.aspx?productID=126130
> > >
> >
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