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Re: Fuzzing Microsoft Office


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 09:29:15 -0400

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 13:52:49 BST, Disco Jonny said:

mate if you care, or give a shit.  I have over 300 *different* crashes
in word ( total over 5k files that crash word), from using two basic
templates and then fuzzing them

Out of curiosity, how do you determine conclusively that they're in fact
different crashes, rather than just different symptoms of the same problem?

For instance, a bounds check on string A that trashes memory - can manifest
as almost *anything*, as it depends on what the *next* thing in memory is, and
when/how it gets dereferenced.  This is particularly an issue when it's heap
corruption.  If the previous sentence had 2 bold strings, then thing B on
the heap gets splatted, causing one crash, but if there's an italic string,
then it's C that gets trashed, causing a different manifestation.

It's still the same bug with A though.

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