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Re: Re: ICMP Destination Unreachable Port Unreachable


From: "Adriel T. Desautels" <simon () snosoft com>
Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:53:09 -0400

Darren,
    I did notice what type of packet it was and I also know what the
packet signifies. The issue that I am having is that there has never
been any outbound UDP activity to the host that is replying to this
network. The payloads of the ICMP packets are a bit weird too,
containing either X'es or |'s or encoded strings. What I am trying to
figure out is if anyone here recognizes these types of payloads and
knows what could be generating them?

so just to be clear...

I want info about the payload not about ICMP!

Darren Bounds wrote:
Dude,

In case you've failed to notice, this is an ICMP port unreachable
message.
It's sent in response to a UDP packet destined for an unavailable UDP
port.
The port '0' referenced in the event source/destination is meaningless as
ICMP doesn't use source and destination ports (it is always '0').

The payload of the ICMP unreachable message contains original IP
header (of
the initial UDP packet) and at least 64 bits (8 bytes) of original data
datagram. The size of data echoed will vary depending on the
implementation.




On 8/15/06, Dude VanWinkle <dudevanwinkle () gmail com> wrote:

On 8/15/06, Julio Cesar Fort <julio () rfdslabs com br> wrote:
Dude VanWinkle,

<snip>
-----------------------------
Looks to me like they are using port 0.
http://www.grc.com/port_0.htm
-JP

*NEVER TRUST* Steve Gibson. I bet he smokes crack. See
http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan.html#gibson for more details.


thanks for the tip!

Still, I cant seem to help but think there is something to this port 0
thingy

http://www.networkpenetration.com/port0.html

<snip>

3. Port 0 OS Fingerprinting
---------------------------
As port 0 is reserverd for special use as stated in RFC 1700. Coupled
with the fact that this port number is reassigned by the OS, no
traffic should flow over the internet using this port. As the
specifics are not clear different OS's have differnet ways of handling
traffic using port 0 thus they can be fingerprinted.

--------------------------------------------

I guess that is just a reaction to traffic and not actual traffic via
port 0, but still nifty info

-JP

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