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Re: Shell accounts
From: "Ian stuart Turnbull" <ian.t7 () hotmail co uk>
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 00:30:18 +0100
And I thought I could do it all Telepathically!!
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu To: Ian stuart Turnbull <ian.t7 () hotmail co uk> CC: full-disclosure () lists grok org ukSubject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Shell accounts Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:24:48 -0400MIME-Version: 1.0Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu ([128.173.14.107]) by bay0-pamc1-f1.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:24:49 -0700 Received: from turing-police.cc.vt.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1])by turing-police.cc.vt.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k3BNOmkr027724;Tue, 11 Apr 2006 19:24:48 -0400X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Z3TmmkSEdPtfpLB7P/ybN8= X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.1-RC3 References: <BAY112-F130B09733642A883AF695F99CD0 () phx gbl> Return-Path: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt eduX-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Apr 2006 23:24:49.0402 (UTC) FILETIME=[209E4DA0:01C65DBF]On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:48:41 BST, Ian stuart Turnbull said:> Ha Ha. Yes, not a proper fiend hey. But I take it that I would be anonymous> technically. Nope.Hint - if you send a packet *out* from the shell account, it's probably as aresult of another packet going *in* to the shell account. Even the stupidest of cops can figure out that "wow - every time a packetheads out from here to the Pentagon, a split second before, a similar packetcame in from some bozo on a cablemodem in Idaho. Maybe the Idaho guys need to pay this guy a visit"....Yes, you can obfuscate it with setting cron jobs and tunnelling data via covert channels and other neat tricks, but the basic point remains - if you connect*to* the shell, you're no longer anonymous, and if you don't connect to the shell, you can't use the shell....
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