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Re: Third issue of the Zone-H Comics
From: "Bart Lansing" <bart.lansing () hushmail com>
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:59:06 -0700
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 n3td3v, man, really, lay off the caffeine. Of course newspapers solicit for videos and photos of newsworthy events. Other comments regarding your slightly maniacal rant: SUICIDE bombers...typically DEAD. Tough to solicit videos from them, and rather pointless to keep a top ten list as they...well...can't exactly do it again. Of course newspaper sites and newspapers accord special places (called the Front Page) to bombers of government facilities...it's what they do...publish the news. None of the above is considered to condone or glorify terrorists (which is a different philisophical topic and not one to start here), it is simply reporting the news. Have a cup of decaf and read what you are sending before you send it. Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:38:31 -0700 n3td3v <xploitable () gmail com> wrote:
Do newspaper sites ask suicide bombers to submit videos? Do newspaper sites keep a chart of the top suicide bombers? Do newspaper sites give you special status if you bomb a gov building? Thats what Zone-H does in the cyber terrorism world. It is not the same as a newspaper or newspaper site. I would like to see how long CNN.com would stay online if it started supporting terrorists to submit suicide bombings, and rate them by
the importance of the building they bombed. And an archive of top terrorist groups who submit that information? Why hasn't CNN.com done that yet? And if Zone-H is "OK", then why haven't sites like CNN.com and all-the-others setup a "submit your cyber terrorism attacks" yet. Thats all for now, Thanks, n3td3v On 9/27/05, Richard Horsman <richardh () sec-1 com> wrote:n3td3v, I would compare zone-h more to a newspaper than a terroristssite.Newspapers report what is happening in the world whether it'sgood newsor bad news. Zone-h brings news about defacements and othersecurityrelated issues, it does not encourage defacements. Richh -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Ofn3td3vSent: 27 September 2005 17:10 To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Third issue of the Zone-H Comics Hi, I have reviewed your site and it sucks. Looks like you're trying to encourage the activity of webpage defacement and bringing celebrity status to those who candeface/submit the most defacements. You make it look legal by saying the site is useful forresearch, butreally, we all know it encourages the malicious kids who submitto thesite. I don't know why the security services in the U.S haven'tclosedyou down. Your site is in comparison to asking terrorist bombers to postsuicidebombing videos to a website and asking you to look at it. Theonlydifference here is, Zone-H is about cyber terrorism, rather than terrorism in the real world. Do the U.S security services take cyber terrorism as seriouslyas realworld terrorism? And if they do, Why is Zone-H still online? A journalist should ask that question at Bush's next newsconference.Also: Are Zone-H admins about to expand the website to allow forsuicidebombing video's, or is that different from the cyber terrorismthatyour site currently supports. And if you don't support cyber terrorism, then why is Zone-H online and why are you an admin of Zone-H.org Thats all for now, Thanks, n3td3v On 9/27/05, Gerardo 'Astharot' Di Giacomo <astharot () zone-h org>wrote:Hello, http://www.zone-h.org Gerardo 'Astharot' Di Giacomo - Zone-H Admin_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/*******************************************************************
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