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Re: Bigger burger roll needed
From: Steve Friedl <steve () unixwiz net>
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 06:42:37 -0700
On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 08:50:27AM -0400, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
One acronym: BSOD. Why have users learned what it is, and grown accepting of seeing one? Do you know any Windows users who have *never* encountered one?
The majority of BSODs are caused by buggy third-party drivers and malware (rootkits, etc.) Is that part of "Microsoft's monopolistic abuse"?
How many Windows users would believe that before Microsoft, vendors actually would take a *single* crash reported by *one* user seriously enough to investigate and produce a bugfix, and that vendors would escalate to the point of sending developers to the customer site if a system crashed multiple times and no fix was in sight in a week?
Before Microsoft, you got your hardware and OS from the same vendor, so there was a much larger revenue stream to support that kind of service. When you pay $100-ish (OEM) for your operating system, it's not so clear that anybody really ought to expect Bill to get in the car and swing by on his way home. Steve --- Stephen J Friedl | Security Consultant | UNIX Wizard | +1 714 544-6561 www.unixwiz.net | Tustin, Calif. USA | Microsoft MVP | steve () unixwiz net _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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