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Re: [inbox] Re: Hacking Boot camps!
From: InfoSecBOFH <infosecbofh () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:09:40 -0800
Not in the least. I just know a scam and a waste of time/money when I see one. On 11/25/05, Exibar <exibar () thelair com> wrote:
wow, SANS must have really hurt you emotionally to be this pissed at them.... Ex-----Original Message----- From: InfoSecBOFH [mailto:infosecbofh () gmail com] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 4:43 AM To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: [inbox] Re: [Full-disclosure] Hacking Boot camps! Bottom line is... and you can ignore the SANS instructor/SANS zealot post... SANS = SHIT. Now that I am in a position with my employer to hire and fire people... I will not even consider an applicant who touts his SANS certification as something to be proud of or something to make him more skilled than the next. And, now that I am in a senior position at my employer, I am doing everything I can to stop my employer from paying the EXTORTION fees to SANS in order to be a part of their what works program and any of their training. You know what makes me smile everyday... the knowledge in knowing that I am not the only senior infosec person at a major corporation who feels this way about SANS. Fuck SANS. FUCK EM ALL! http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=sans#without sans ( P ) Pronunciation Key (snz, sä) prep. Without. ------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- [Middle English, from Old French, blend of Latin sine, without, and absenti, in the absence of, ablative of absentia, absence from absns, absent- present participle of abesse, to be away. See absent.] On 11/23/05, senator.crabgrass () comcast net <senator.crabgrass () comcast net> wrote:Maybe it is not what you know but who you know. Best of luckwith that grail thing, finding it is veiled, holding it is easy, keeping it polished is where the work is.-- vote for meOn 11/23/05, senator.crabgrass () comcast net <senator.crabgrass () comcast net> wrote:... the cert game is nothing more than a lucrative revenuegenerator. Foreither the test givers or the vender pusher or the land of test king. a few respectable names in their roster[1]; i wonder why they don't name the instructor giving each presentation on their conference schedule[2]... i have a theory: the more legitimately skilled you are, the less you instruct and the more you are paid. a nice way to convert reputation into ca$h! [maybe i can get in on this racket once i attain the holy grail of CPA, GCFW, CISSP, CISM, CISA, CCNA, CCSE, CCSA, GIAC, GCIA, GSNA, GCFA, GCIH, GCUX, GSEC, QUE, WTFBBQ] 1. http://www.sans.org/instructors.php 2. http://www.sans.org/index.php_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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Current thread:
- RE: Hacking Boot camps!, (continued)
- RE: Hacking Boot camps! Christopher Carpenter (Nov 23)
- Re: Hacking Boot camps! senator . crabgrass (Nov 23)
- Re: Hacking Boot camps! coderman (Nov 23)
- Re: Hacking Boot camps! InfoSecBOFH (Nov 23)
- Re: Hacking Boot camps! coderman (Nov 23)
- Re: Hacking Boot camps! senator . crabgrass (Nov 23)
- Re: Hacking Boot camps! InfoSecBOFH (Nov 24)
- Re: Hacking Boot camps! Marco Ermini (Nov 25)
- RE: [inbox] Re: Hacking Boot camps! Exibar (Nov 25)
- Re: [inbox] Re: Hacking Boot camps! Disco Jonny (Nov 26)
- RE: [inbox] Re: Hacking Boot camps! Exibar (Nov 28)
- Re: [inbox] Re: Hacking Boot camps! InfoSecBOFH (Nov 26)
- Re: Hacking Boot camps! InfoSecBOFH (Nov 24)
- RE: Hacking Boot camps! MH (Nov 30)
- Re: Hacking Boot camps! InfoSecBOFH (Nov 30)