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RE: Wi-fi. Approaching customers
From: "Lauro, John" <jlauro () umflint edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:48:07 -0500
Although not directly liable, you must be able to say who had what IP at a certain time time when bad activity came from your network... If you are unable to provide that information, you are then liable... We too are semi-open. You can get a DHCP address, access our public websites, our DNS servers, etc... However, to get out to the internet or to access any non public servers you can't do that without loging in and having your mac address registered, etc...
-----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] On Behalf Of Soderland, Craig Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 4:41 PM To: Marcus Graf; full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Wi-fi. Approaching customers Now here's the .90 cent question: If ISP's are not liable for the content across them, and cannot be held liable. And you run an Open WIFI network... Aren't you in effect an ISP Albeit a free one? And if you are an ISP, then wouldn't you, not be liable for content sent across your network. ------------------------------------------------------------------ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces () lists grok org uk] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 4:28 PM To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Wi-fi. Approaching customers Matthew Sabin wrote:My company has made a conscious decision to leave our WiFi open tovisitors, while our internal machines connect via IPSec on the open airwaves.A drive-by would show the open nature of our WiFi, but wouldn'timmediately tell you that we've secured our business fairly well. but what if someone uses your unsecured network to download copyrighted material (just mp3s are enough :->) or to send porn? An unsecured WiFi may have serious legal consequences. And to come back on the original topic: These legal consequences may be good arguments to convince customers that they need to get their network secured. Ciao Marcus -- Hail Eris! Hail Discordia! _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://www.secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://www.secunia.com/
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Current thread:
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers, (continued)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Gregh (Mar 15)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ron DuFresne (Mar 15)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ryan Sumida (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ryan Sumida (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ryan Sumida (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Konstantin V. Gavrilenko (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ron DuFresne (Mar 15)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ryan Sumida (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers bkfsec (Mar 16)
- Re: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Michael Holstein (Mar 16)
- RE: Wi-fi. Approaching customers Ryan Sumida (Mar 16)