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Re: US pres election was hacked away by Dumbya&cabal. (fwd)


From: Micheal Espinola Jr <michealespinola () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:50:59 -0500

All of you, kindly take it off list.  This is not the appropriate
forum, and publicising private retorts to a public forum is childish.


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:54:00 -0600, Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu> wrote:
Normally I would not post publicly a private email from someone without
their permission, but this bozo deserves it.

You want to threaten me, Seth?  Please, contact my boss.  Write hundreds of
letters to the editor of whatever papers you desire.

While you're at it, contact the Governor and request an investigation of my
"illegal" activities.  I'm sure, once they're done laughing, his staff will
immediately commence a thorough investigation of moi employing the full
resources of the State Attorney General's office.

Putz.

------------ Forwarded Message ------------
Date: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:35:12 AM -0800
From: Seth Alan Woolley <seth () tautology org>
To: Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu>
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] US pres election was hacked away by
Dumbya&cabal.

[snipped a bunch of non-relevant stuff]

Please keep your ignorant drivel off the list.  For just one example of
evidence, sworn depositions by county elections officials were presented
as evidence to Congress by Representative Conyers that illegal behavior
was conducted by a Triad representative including instructing county
elections officials on how to fake the recounts in Ohio.

In full-disclosure, I happen to be friends with the Media Director of
the Cobb/LaMarche campaign that initiated the vote recount that brought
to light the amount of fraud in Ohio.  I also voted to nominate Cobb for
the US Green Party presidential nominating convention as a delegate
representing the State of Oregon, was secretary of the state party for
two years, and was elections administrator for the Oregon State
nominating convention that sent the majority of its delegates
representing Cobb to the national convention.

Does the University of Texas at Dallas pay you to write ignorant
political tripe?  That's so Republican, to use government subsidies to
further political agendas.  You should be proud.  I hope your boss is
too.  Oh wait, he can't...

http://utdallas.edu/utdgeneral/business/admin_manual/personnel2.htm

Page D11-270.0 Political Activity and Influence of the UT Dallas
employee manual essentially says you can't be paid if you use UT Dallas
resources to influence an election:

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So you can abide by the law, or be reported to your boss and the local
newspaper via a letter to the editor.  Post your ignorance on your own
dime.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Seth Alan Woolley <seth () tautology org>
To: Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:35:12 -0800
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] US pres election was hacked away by Dumbya&cabal.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2005 at 11:35:17AM -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On Thursday, March 10, Edward Ray <support () mmicman com> wrote:
Personally I think *regardless whether it's true or not* it's a
pretty eye-popping development -- had the equivalent happened here in the
UK it would certainly be headline news, even if the headlines were "Ffion
Hague goes mad in public".

Really?  So, if - say - Elton John said the moon was made of green cheese,
you would think that was a "pretty eye-popping development"?

1700 to 1800 years ago, somebody wrote about a divine savior, similar to
a half dozen other divine saviors, and ascribed human attributes to a
fictional entity of earlier spiritual proportions in an Essene cult, and
that's an "article of faith"?

Because Ms.  Kerry has *no* evidence to back up her statements.  They
are *pure* conjecture.  But you apparently are saying the mere claim
of a problem is an "eye-popping" revelation?

A mere claim of divinity is a revelation?

Pot, meet Kettle.


Pretty low standards for popping the old eyes, I'd say.

Please keep your ignorant drivel off the list.  For just one example of
evidence, sworn depositions by county elections officials were presented
as evidence to Congress by Representative Conyers that illegal behavior
was conducted by a Triad representative including instructing county
elections officials on how to fake the recounts in Ohio.

In full-disclosure, I happen to be friends with the Media Director of
the Cobb/LaMarche campaign that initiated the vote recount that brought
to light the amount of fraud in Ohio.  I also voted to nominate Cobb for
the US Green Party presidential nominating convention as a delegate
representing the State of Oregon, was secretary of the state party for
two years, and was elections administrator for the Oregon State
nominating convention that sent the majority of its delegates
representing Cobb to the national convention.

Does the University of Texas at Dallas pay you to write ignorant
political tripe?  That's so Republican, to use government subsidies to
further political agendas.  You should be proud.  I hope your boss is
too.  Oh wait, he can't...

http://utdallas.edu/utdgeneral/business/admin_manual/personnel2.htm

Page D11-270.0 Political Activity and Influence of the UT Dallas
employee manual essentially says you can't be paid if you use UT Dallas
resources to influence an election:

Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.12])
       by lists.grok.org.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F001774A8
       for <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>;
       Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:35:18 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from utd49554 (utd49554.utdallas.edu [129.110.3.85])
       by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D31853890C3
       for <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>;
       Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:35:17 -0600 (CST)

So you can abide by the law, or be reported to your boss and the local
newspaper via a letter to the editor.  Post your ignorance on your own
dime.

--
Seth Alan Woolley [seth at positivism.org], SPAM/UCE is unauthorized
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