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Re: MediaSentry false positives?


From: Kevin <kkadow () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 15:36:09 -0600

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:53:55 -0500, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
<Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 23:22:27 CST, Kevin said:
I see two likely possibilities -- either MediaSentry is not using due
diligence in verifying that the material for which they send
infringement notices is actually shared from the address they show in
the complaint,

It turns out that this is the case.

Just this morning we received a message from the copyright holder (Not
MediaSentry, they've completely ignored our emails and phone calls
through the whole process) stating "Please disregard the notice you
received. It was generated incorrectly, and the case ID or IDs
mentioned are now closed. (A configuration problem with our
anti-piracy vendor's system caused some notices to be sent in error.)
"


or somebody on the Internet is spoofing BGP route
announcements for unused address space out of larger allocations.

This is actually quite likely a possibility.  There are enough tier-1's who do
a piss-poor job of filtering their BGP feeds that if you can inject an
announcement you can hijack the address block. 

Thanks to BJ Premore from Renesys, we have been able to confirm that
the addresses in question were _not_ hijacked during the time period
where MediaSentry reported an infringing file share.

The only recent "hijack" event covering any of our reported IP
addresses didn't match up with any of the incident timestamps, was
related to the December 24th "Turk Telekom" incident, one of many
thousand prefixes announced through TTNet.

We are investigating using Renesys services, myASn, and other BGP
monitoring approaches to proactively detect future hijacks. 
Unfortunately, this doesn't address any underlying flaws in the
mechanisms used by MediaSentry (and other similar services) to detect
and report copyright infringement.

Kevin Kadow
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