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Re: Oddness with the MS antispyware beta


From: Micheal Espinola Jr <michealespinola () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:46:30 -0400

As far as my testing is concerned, this is all well and normal (if you want 
to call it that). However, I'd be interested if Sunbelt's enterprise product 
does the same thing.
 To add to this, since this is a user-accessible/controllable window (even 
if off screen) - it seems easy enough for another app to be able to control 
it, and disable MSAS.

 On Apr 12, 2005 8:45 AM, Jay Libove <libove () felines org> wrote: 

I see that extra MS antispyware window (systrayhide, systrayshow, ...)
also on a two-monitor workstation using nVidia's desktop manager. A
similar thing happens with an ancient pop-up stopper I use (AKiller). If
you're seeing it on a laptop, it's probably because the laptop has a
second monitor capability and is running the advanced window management
functionality to know about the second monitor.

Both are just artifacts of either poorly written software (Giant
Anti-spyware, my little old AKiller program) or poorly written window
managers (or both) which result in the "don't show this window" bit being
ignored when under advanced window management.

They're annoying, but not an indication of anything nefarious.

-Jay Libove, CISSP
Atlanta, GA, US

Message: 9
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 23:04:38 -0600
From: Scott Edwards <supadupa () gmail com>
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Re: Oddness with the MS antispyware beta
To: Gregh <chows () ozemail com au>
Cc: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
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Are you able to isolate it when running a selective startup via
msconfig? Also, does something like winspy give you any clues?


On 4/11/05, Gregh <chows () ozemail com au> wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "MN Vasquez" <mnv () alumni princeton edu>
To: <full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:02 AM
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Oddness with the MS antispyware beta


On the 2nd monitor I found a program window "hiding". Basically, in a
very odd position -- on a typically non-displayed
portion of the desktop, which I only found by configuring multiple
monitors. It seems the programmers are "hiding" a
window, which I have attached as a jpg. For those that don't want to 
open
an attachment:

there are 5 buttons: systrayhide, systrayshow, systraynormal,
systrascanning, systrayupdating.


Sorry old son but it isn't hidden in any nasty or bug kind of way. I 
have 2
XPSP2 machines, one is a laptop and the other a desktop. For some 
reason
that window doesn't show when Antispyware is started on the desktop 
with a
normal CRT monitor but it does on the laptop every singles time. 
Normally it
"hides" as in turns invisible after the prog has completed starting.

Greg.
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