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RE: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11
From: "joe" <mvp () joeware net>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:27:24 -0400
I agree you should be able to rely on the products. What is apparently at fault here is a vendor using a value from a system function incorrectly or if you wish, using an incorrect system function for their purpose. I'm pretty confident they weren't rebooting these servers for Windows to function, it was a matter of the resetting the tick count for the application. joe -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Frank Knobbe Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:01 AM To: Barry Fitzgerald Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 09:15, Barry Fitzgerald wrote:
The article doesn't make the situation entirely clear. Did the app intentionally restart the system and foul it? Did the restart occur because the app crashed?
No, no, the problem was "human error" because a tech didn't reboot the system. It's clearly operator error, not a problem with any systems at all. Unfortunately, there is some truth in this. We (and not just the media) are starting to put blame on humans far too quickly. Is this justified? On one hand, they are only tools for us to do our job. On the other hand, they are products that we should be able to rely on. Who do we blame? Operators or products? Cheers. Frank _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 devis (Sep 25)
- RE: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 joe (Sep 26)
- Re: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 Georgi Guninski (Sep 28)
- Re: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 Troy (Sep 25)
- RE: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 Ron DuFresne (Sep 25)
- Re: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 Barry Fitzgerald (Sep 24)
- Re: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 Frank Knobbe (Sep 24)
- Re: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 Barry Fitzgerald (Sep 24)
- RE: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 joe (Sep 24)
- Re: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 Nancy Kramer (Sep 24)
- RE: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 joe (Sep 24)
- Re: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 Ron DuFresne (Sep 24)
- Re: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 Frank Knobbe (Sep 24)
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- RE: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 Michal Zalewski (Sep 24)
- RE: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 joe (Sep 24)
- Re: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 devis (Sep 25)
- Re: Windoze almost managed to 200x repeat 9/11 Barry Fitzgerald (Sep 24)