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Re: Does the following...
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 18:33:54 +1200
Andrew Farmer to Valdis Kletnieks:
Man, are they *still* selling sound cards that are *that* crappy and
<<snip>>
Apparently, yes. This is a known occurrence. Support: - Text includes some text that one might expect in radio - "San Bernardino 90" (traffic report)
...or a weather forecast?
To other posters: - RF keyboards don't exist. Nobody's *that* unconcerned about security.
Please explain to the fine folk at Logitech then (sorry, URL will wrap): http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/usertype/businesstopics/US/EN ,CRID=864,parentCRID=267,contentID=7952 ... Whether it's our patented 27MHz cordless technology, a step up to our Fast RF cordless desktops and mice, ... ...and when you're done, please go research all the other keyboard, mouse and/or "presentation pointer" makers and explain to them why they also don't make products that millions have been happily using for years.
- Bluetooth keyboards require a pairing process to work, so that's not too likely.
I didn't say it was likely. As presented, the clue-level of both the user and system installer/ configurer, are entirely unknown, so we were suggesting possibilities to a very loosely defined problem set. Without knowing more my money, like yours, is on the speech recognition s/w and noisy/badly-shielded sound card combo, but I'd say that both the above are at least modestly likely and therefore worth suggesting for the OP to check/eliminate if it does not appear to be the (I thought well-known) speech recognition issue... In case you don't know, "typical" RF cordless keyboards and mice have been recorded to have effective ranges to around 150m (way beyond what the manufacturer's specs say): http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article427668.ece http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/100/374785
- Bayesian-defeating text? Explain to me why that'd be showing up in Word. - Random prose script? Falls to Occam's razor: why would it be implemented in Word (other than as a prank)?
Agreed -- these were stabs-in-the-dark by folk who forgot to understand the problem description before responding... (That said, there were a couple of rare variants of some manky Word macro viruses that, due to some weird bug in the virus and/or oddity in at least one version of Word that the virus replicated under, when you started Word on an infected machine the virus code effectively finished leaving the focus on a "hidden" window displaying the virus' source code in the Visual Basic Editor environment -- if you Alt-Tabbed "away" and then Alt- Tabbed "back" the window was actually revealed. _Further_, at least one of variants of these viruses had snatched some text (though not by the virus code's direct action) from some "sensitive" NATO setting. Neither deliberately progressively typed the text into a visible Word document though, but that effect could be pretty easily achieved using Word VBA macro features.) -- Nick FitzGerald Computer Virus Consulting Ltd. Ph/FAX: +64 3 3529854 _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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