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RE: WiFi question


From: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles () brookshires com>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:15:37 -0600

I would have to agree with GuidoZ. The changing MAC would point to
something being up. AP using different channels is pretty common in some
models but the MAC changing and being different vendors points to fake
AP.

I bet you 10 bucks the WEP key changes on all but one of them each time
too..lol  

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From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com 
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of GuidoZ
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 12:42 PM
To: colin.scott () csplc com
Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] WiFi question

I'm not 100% on this, as it could be something I've never 
heard of (of course). However, it sounds a lot like someone 
is playing with
"FakeAP":
 - http://www.blackalchemy.to/project/fakeap/

It's not real difficult to setup and only requires a Prisim 
chipset card (one or more) and a compatible Linux distro. 
It's been around for over 2 years, but hasn't been touched 
for about the same amount of time. See the site for more.

--
Peace. ~G


On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:53:07 +0000, colin.scott () csplc com 
<colin.scott () csplc com> wrote:
List,

I'm an expert in nothing so when I saw this I had to ask, 
as Im sure 
theres someone out there that is a WiFi expert.

Google has found no answer so here goes.

Last night we saw a new access point appear. No problems 
its an ad-hoc 
network so its someone's machine with XP on configured for 
their home 
W-LAN probably.  Running Netstumbler shows more on it though.

You get 2 Access Points showing this ESSID for a few 
seconds. Then you 
get a 3rd, then a 4rth. Then the first two drop off, this 
repeats forever.
Always using a different MAC address when a new AP appears. The APs 
are all WEP enabled (which I cant crack cos I dont have the 
savvy or 
the tools :) ) and this goes on forever.

The MACs are all from different pools (i.e. assigned to different
manufacturers) so the only conclusion is that they are all 
spoofed MACs.

I have walked around the office and as far as I can tell its coming 
from this office (the IT dept), basing that assumption on 
signal strength.

Anyone seen any tools that do this?   I would love a little 
hand-held
gadget that would help me find it (like the scanner in Alien!)

Answers on a post card :)

Colin.


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