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Re: XP vs 2K
From: <youreallythoughtiwouldgiveyoumy-eh () yahoo com>
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:46:31 -0800 (PST)
Good Morning Everyone, Ha! I'd like to add my "two cents" to this discussion. with XP, I sometimes get the feeling like the OS (get this) doesn't trust me to config the system the way *I* want. For example, I decided one day to disable some services (server, messenger, etc) for security, the same ones recommended to disable on any win2k/xp machine exposed to the internet. So, all's going good and fine, until i reboot. Now, XP gives me (intermittently) a BSOD at startup! I check the system logs, and find that the crashes were from "server" service not being able to startup. very weird.... I always feel that when i'm using XP, it's like I'm given kiddie gloves to admin the operating system. Some things to administer the system are almost buried or take multiple steps to accomplish. Mind you, i've only worked with XP Home (XP Lite?), sometimes it's like i'm working with a copy of a Mac OS, pre OS9. Everything's about appearance; administration comes second. It also bothers me that the OS screams bloody murder when I try to make changes to it (see above), almost like it's saying "Hey! What the hell do YOU think you're doing?!? Don't you know who wrote me? Don't you trust them to make a secure and great operating system?? Get yer damn hands out o' me!! Anyways..... All i'm saying is that it bothers me that I can't have the same amount of freedom to administer changes and security on a machine running XP as I do on one running win2k. Stranger than this though, is that not everyone has had the some problems as I with XP. I can find many people who gush about the features and how much they like XP. Might specific hardware and software effect XP's performance and compatibility (see XP2, and http://isc.sans.org/xpsp2.php. The site may be down, a problem with their server (I think), so check back later, or see google's cache: http://tinyurl.com/5boty.) I don't know, it's probably just be me, XP might just have it out to ruin my day, who can say.... I hope i didn't offend anyone w/ this post, I'm just giving my story to this thread. I know many people will probably agree with my take on XP, and anyone who doesn't is just wrong. No, I'm joking, there's no way one person or one opinion can have the upper hand in this discussion, it's like any other OS debate: one's got this, the other doesn't; one's got super-secret loop-back encryption, the other doesn't; and it goes on.... cheers, isk --- Gregh <chows () ozemail com au> wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Geo" <georger () nls net> To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] XP vs 2KCurt, as XP can have its bells & whistles shut down to perform as 2K can, your preference must be security related. Would you be spcefic, or should I just read every advisory again? This perplexes me as M$ at least eventually patch XP while 2K is entering its next life.You don't have to be security oriented to not wantXP in the workplace.There are plenty of other reasons. Install XP tosomeplace other than C: andthe default directory name, delete boot.ini thentry and recover using theCd if you want to experience but one of them..(you'll have to try the samething with W2K to understand the full meaning ofwhat I'm describing)I'd like to know what it is you mean to be honest. Never had to do that with W2K before but wiped XP off C and reinstalled the same image of C as G before. Then had to run a repair install directly after that. Never a problem that wasn't fixed by altering card entries in registry or easier - updating to the next SP. Greg. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: XP vs 2K youreallythoughtiwouldgiveyoumy-eh (Nov 15)
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- RE: XP vs 2K youreallythoughtiwouldgiveyoumy-eh (Nov 15)
- Re: XP vs 2K Gregh (Nov 15)
- Re: XP vs 2K Geo (Nov 15)