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Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code
From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne () winternet com>
Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 20:18:27 -0500 (CDT)
On Wed, 26 May 2004, Mister Coffee wrote:
<big snip>But, for realities sake, let's avoid hypothetical's and deal with the facts; The code was stolen, it's been widely announced that it was obtained from non-legal channels. Now, back to my question; how is this different from cquiring stolen property in any other context? Thanks,Ron, My point was strictly an ethical one on doing an audit, and the application of Fair Use in such. As I've tried to point out several times, the acquisition was a separate issue that I'm not going into. I'll let you pursue that with others.
I understand that you are trying to proceed on the original bent of this thread, no matter how inaccurate that bent is to the original issue/request that spawned this set of sub-threads. the point is, copywrite law might apply to me if I took code that was placed in my hands by cisco, with a NDC of course extremely likely being signed and agreed to, and then shared that code with someone not covered by that NDC, say the juniper folks or you for some auditing purpose. But, this issue is in reality, a criminal issue/choice; trying to obtain what is known widely to be stolen property. And of course the choice or not to commit a criminal act is most often an issue with an ethical context. I do not believe the FBI has been tapped to investigate a copywrite matter. Thanks, Ron DuFresne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!*** OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't touch anything. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code, (continued)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Tobias Weisserth (May 26)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code tcleary2 (May 25)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code James Edwards (May 25)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Mister Coffee (May 26)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Tobias Weisserth (May 26)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Mister Coffee (May 26)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Ron DuFresne (May 26)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Mister Coffee (May 26)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Ron DuFresne (May 26)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Mister Coffee (May 26)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Ron DuFresne (May 26)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code James Edwards (May 25)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Benjamin Krueger (May 26)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Valdis . Kletnieks (May 27)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Paolo Mattiangeli (May 26)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Jason Weisberger (May 26)
- Re: Cisco's stolen code Rodrigo Gutierrez (May 26)
- Re: Re: Cisco's stolen code Mister Coffee (May 26)
- Re: Cisco's stolen code Cold Fire (May 26)
- RE: Cisco's stolen code Tobias Weisserth (May 26)