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Re: NEVER open attachments
From: "Frank de Wit" <frankdewit () home nl>
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2004 17:27:56 +0100
you win, happy now? but i'll bite in this one ;-) I follow this list and the ones before this one @securityfocus since about ?6 yrs? daily, and bugtraq before that etc the only ones posting messages as attachments here are: krafft, knobbe, stover and a handfull more (max 1% of all the messages here and elsewhere...?) so please make it easy on everyone and just don't do it; i don't like to open attachments and i don't like to scroll i want to see&read it all in a few seconds... and: no one only follows fulldisclosure alone; i subscribe to (let's count) 26 other sec-lists... that makes it very difficult to miss something the shit is that i get redhat vuln-mails about 4 times hahaha we both made our point clear i think, let's stop this thread and read things that really matter ! cheers! Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Etaoin Shrdlu" <shrdlu () deaddrop org> To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] NEVER open attachments
Frank de Wit wrote:just ignore a major part of the world who don't use your mailer... and they will ignore your emails... simple just ask yourself what is more important to you you emailing, or people reading your emails ;-)Well, now, this is this a pissing contest, or an IQ test? Either way, you are going to lose. It might be true, in some sort of corporate structure, that using Outlook as a mailreader holds some sort of majority. However, on this list, or any security list, using such a creature is a fool's errand. First of all, if someone posts here, and signs a message, it's more likely that YOU (i.e. Frank de Wit & Co) need to read what "they've* said. Do folk posting security related messages care whether or not people who insist on using the virus vector from Redmond (aka Outlook) can read those posts? My guess would be no, not at all. I realize that english is not your first language, I saw the smiley, but you still need to get a clue. I don't personally sign messages, because
I'm
not making any statements here that you need to check on. If something shows up from Redhat, or Suse, or Cisco, and it's a security warning about something you need to patch, it's going to be signed. If you miss it,
tough
for you. Do they care? Nope. The messages is a courtesy from them (and we appreciate it). It's important that it be verified, hence it is signed,
and
in a manner appropriate for most of us.----- Original Message ----- From: "Nico Golde" <nion () gmx net> To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] NEVER open attachments i think the philosophy of never open attachments is only true if your
mailer
sucks. regards nicoWhile this is true (and it is), more importantly, it is foolish to read a mailing list populated by such a wide range of security folk, and expect *them* to change their mailing agents to please the "less educated" (or perhaps I should say "less aware of security") newcomers. Just because
(for
example) someone like Paul Schmehl makes posts about securing Windows (and I believe that he is successful in his methodology), doesn't meant that he's foolish enough to read this list using Outlook. In fact, I notice
he's
on MacOS X (at least lately), which makes sense to me (best of both
worlds,
if you must live in an environment that has to cooperate with MS). If you're here, and you're new (and you've read this far), remember that the old adage of lurking for a while, before posting, holds true here as well as anywhere else. -- Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well under the new. Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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Current thread:
- Re: PGP attachments (was: NEVER open attachments), (continued)
- Re: PGP attachments (was: NEVER open attachments) Frank Knobbe (Mar 20)
- Re: PGP attachments (was: NEVER open attachments) gadgeteer (Mar 19)
- Re: Re: PGP attachments (was: NEVER open attachments) petard (Mar 19)
- Re: Re: PGP attachments (was: NEVER open attachments) Nico Golde (Mar 20)
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- Re: Re: PGP attachments (was: NEVER open attachments) petard (Mar 20)
- Re: PGP attachments (was: NEVER open attachments) Nico Golde (Mar 20)
- Re: PGP attachments (was: NEVER open attachments) Rodrigo Barbosa (Mar 25)
- Re: NEVER open attachments Nico Golde (Mar 20)
- Re: NEVER open attachments Frank de Wit (Mar 20)
- Re: NEVER open attachments Etaoin Shrdlu (Mar 20)
- Re: NEVER open attachments Frank de Wit (Mar 20)
- Re: NEVER open attachments Troy (Mar 20)
- Re: NEVER open attachments Steve Menard (Mar 20)
- Re: NEVER open attachments Luke Scharf (Mar 21)
- Re: NEVER open attachments gadgeteer (Mar 21)
- RE: NEVER open attachments Jeff Schreiner (Mar 21)
- RE: NEVER open attachments Bart . Lansing (Mar 22)
- Re: NEVER open attachments jacob[at]buildtheb0x.com (Mar 25)
- Re: NEVER open attachments Troy (Mar 21)
- Re: NEVER open attachments gadgeteer (Mar 19)
- Re: NEVER open attachments Bennett Todd (Mar 19)