Re: a secure base system

[Tobias Weisserth <tobias () weisserth de>]

Hi Alexander,

Am Mo, den 15.03.2004 schrieb Alexander Bartolich um 20:27:
> Tobias Weisserth wrote:
> > /tmp should always be mounted noexec. Add /home as well with noexec.
> > [...] This may be a trade-off, but the result is more security.
>
> On typical Linux distributions noexec is pointless.
> It does not prevent the execution of dynamically linked ELF images.

Interesting point. 

But I guess "noexec" still is useful for running services, trapped
inside a chroot and running under an user with almost no privileges,
with the chroot residing on such a noexec partition. If the service is
exploitable and an attacker gains the privileges of the user running the
service he might not be able to leave the chroot and use the
circumvention to bypass the noexec option. Or am I wrong here? I really
appreciate your explanation.

You are of course right that I might not be able to hinder individual
users who possess this knowledge with a home directory and a bash login
to run or install programs inside their home directory by just mounting
it noexec. Maybe limiting access to "readelf" helps, but I doubt that
since most binaries are linked to the file you used below... interesting
point indeed ;-)

> $ readelf -l /bin/bash | grep interpreter
>       [Requesting program interpreter: /lib/ld-linux.so.2]
>
> $ /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /bin/bash --version
> GNU bash, version 2.05b.0(1)-release (i386-redhat-linux-gnu)
> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

Well, at least the noexec option for /tmp prevents 99% of available
ready-to-run exploits and root kits to execute properly, since they were
written to run from within /tmp. I guess this takes care of most of the
simple "script-kiddies". But you're right. I doesn't really "solve" the
problem. But it raises the bar because exploits have to be adapted and
luckily not everybody is able to do this.

regards,
Tobias W.


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