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Re: SNMP Broadcasts
From: tshilson () mmm com
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 18:46:03 -0500
I am a newbie, but a few thoughts occur to me: First is that my emailer doesn't handle this well at all. More Below: [signature deleted] full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com wrote on 07/15/2004 04:36:29 PM: <...snip...>
let's note that you are the only MCSE here.
How do you know> I *could* be an MCSE. <...snip...>
But he didn't post this to a newbies "helpme" forum. He [unwisely]
posted
this to FD.
So what is this forum/maillist for? I am here to learn something about security and perhaps get early warnings of some vulnerabilities. Is there a charter, FAQ, or whatever? [Ooops! I found the charter -- see below] <...snip...>
So, Mr. Knob became the unwitting and unwilling recipient of my days frustration with the latest crop of the Endless Summer. Is he due an apology? Maybe - I'm genuinely not certain, and as I said, I've actually discussed it with two people (both on this list).
You admitted that you vented your frustration on him. I think that an apology would be gracious and wouldn't cause you any physical harm. <...snip...>
Do I care? No. Not in the least. Posting something like that as a factual statement, in what amounts to an experts forum, will get you bitch-slapped.
I am typing this after a hard day in the salt mines and am working on my second vodka. Does Mr. Knob's error justify an emotional rant on an expert's form? I admit that these rants allow us to vent our frustrations and make us SAs the wonderful, kind, patient people that we are, a joy to all who know us. <crooked grin> <...snip...>
In a forum such as this - yes. I'm serious Marty. You know me: I
receive
several thousand emails a day, I parse quickly, and I adjust to the environment: I have sent many a newbie down The One True Path. But I won't do that here - I have a hard enough time sifting through Len's little sludge factory as it is.
But you have time for this. (What is worse is that *I* am taking the time to not only read it but to respond!) <...snip...>
Don't ask me for help on something fundamentally basic in a forum dedicated to the discussion of other things.
Such as...? <...snip...>
Exactly! It's an SNMP-like product, which is why it has it's own WKP.
A thousand pardons, but what is "WKP". From the context I would guess Well Known Protocol, but just a guess. Earlier I asked about a FAQ or Charter. I got to the end of the email and there it was! I read the charter and there is nothing against stupid questions. However, I quote for your consideration: Disagreements, flames, arguments, and off-topic discussion should be taken off-list wherever possible. I go back to my closet for more lurking, or another vodka, whichever comes first. tom of the Sweetwater Sea _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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