RE: Mystery phone lines, something is hiding an d answ ering.

["Knarr, Joshua" <joshua.knarr () sap com>]

I would humbly suggest asking them about their "time clock machine".  A lot of places will have one computer that 
doesn't always look like a computer which the registers talk to.  Oftentimes this is written off by employees as a cash 
register rather then a computer.

Timecard systems also can have their own phone lines. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com 
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Tom Curry
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 3:16 PM
> To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
> Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Mystery phone lines, something 
> is hiding and answ ering.
>
> Do you have your own PBX? There is usually a modem into the 
> phone system for
> dial in access for maintenance.... Just a thought.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Schmidt,
> Michael R.
> Sent: July 15, 2004 11:44 AM
> To: 'Eddie'; full-disclosure () lists netsys com
> Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Mystery phone lines, something 
> is hiding and
> answ ering.
>
>
> Is there a Fire/Burglar Alarm system wired to the phone?
>
> Michael R. Schmidt
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com]On Behalf Of Eddie 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 9:56 PM
> To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
> Subject: [Full-disclosure] Mystery phone lines, something is 
> hiding and answ
> ering.
>
> Hello,
>
> I have been given the task of cleaning out all the old phone 
> lines in 30+
> restaurants. Some locations are 30 years old and in the past, 
> extra lines
> where added as needed, then forgotten about. My task it to 
> figure out what
> lines we are using so we can cancel the rest. 
> I generally start at the equipment, (CC machine, FAX, Modem, 
> etc) and get
> the numbers to the lines we are using, then test the main 
> breakout box that
> feeds the building and figure out what lines are coming into 
> the building.
> Quite a easy task as some of the buildings are over 50 years 
> old and the
> breakout box is nothing but a chunk of wood with nuts and bolts.
>
> Anyway, on the 2 locations I have checked so far, I found 5 extra phone
> lines on one and 7 on the other. The strange thing is, 
> something computer
> related answers. Some lines have no answer,  but most, some 
> computer picks
> up. On one, I get some type of digital tone, but it does not 
> sound like any
> modem I have ever heard.
>
> I tried calling the numbers with my laptop and cell phone 
> (with Caller ID
> turned off). Most of the lines won't connect with No Carrier, 
> but one, I get
> the string " ** 01 Communications TermServ **" and a login prompt.
>
> Now if I disconnect the phone line from the break out box,  it stops
> answering, suggesting that whatever is answering, is in the 
> building.  Now
> in both locations, another store shares a wall. Napa on one 
> and Boot Barn on
> the other. However, I don't think they are using our phone box 
> for their
> lines. I have yet to find a voice line, least one that someone answers.
>
> Friday, I will be spending the day in a very hot place with a 
> flashlight in
> one hand, and a toner in the other tracing wires, but I was hoping that
> someone could give me some suggestions. I have never seen 
> anything like this
> before and I am stumped on what is going on.
>
> Thanks for any and all help
> Eddie
>
>
>
>
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