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Re: New Security News Website
From: Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu>
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 20:12:08 -0600
--On Monday, February 16, 2004 4:36 PM -0800 "Gregory A. Gilliss" <ggilliss () netpublishing com> wrote:
I wasn't aware I made any assumptions. You posted a list of open ports you found by using nmap and suggested that the OP needed help learning about hackers. All I did was ask a question and point out that open ports do not necessarily mean insecure ports.Hey Paul, Two questions ... One, why make assumptions about someone you don't know?
What about my answer was antagonistic? I asked a simple question and made simple observations.Two, why answer in an antagonistic tone (minus smileys)?
If what you say is true, then why assume that what you found at someone else's site is insecure? ISTM you're being a little hypocritical, aren't you?AFAIK the original post was an ad for a new list. First thing I'm going to look for is whether the machine hosting the list *appears* secure. Yeah, they can have a loud nmap response and it can be bogus, no duh! The machine in question may be running honeypot/masquerading/whatever. I don't care. Scan any of my IPs and you get RSTs back. That's *my* version of secure. Attackers get diddly. Notice that I am not saying that *my* version of secure has to be *yours*.
Aren't you being a bit disingenuous? It was you that posted the list of open ports and suggested the OP need instruction in hacking. All I did was suggest that there were other possibilities beside the OP being clueless. Then you take that as a personal attack and insinuate that anyone who disagrees with you is clueless *and* that this is a pissing contest! If you take offense each time someone offers another POV, you're going to be taking offense all day long, especially on *this* list, aren't you?<sigh> I miss the good old BBS days when people who had a clue would *help* each other instead of making every f**king post into a pissing contest. Posts like this one are why I have a blacklist for FD.
Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
Current thread:
- New Security News Website Pr0 Curve (Feb 16)
- Re: New Security News Website Gregory A. Gilliss (Feb 16)
- Re: New Security News Website Paul Schmehl (Feb 16)
- Re: New Security News Website Gregory A. Gilliss (Feb 16)
- Re: New Security News Website Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 16)
- Re: New Security News Website Paul Schmehl (Feb 16)
- Re: New Security News Website Paul Schmehl (Feb 16)
- Re: New Security News Website Paul Schmehl (Feb 16)
- Re: New Security News Website g0d (Feb 16)
- Re: New Security News Website Benjamin Meade (Feb 16)
- Re: New Security News Website Ron DuFresne (Feb 16)
- Re: New Security News Website Paul Schmehl (Feb 17)
- Re: New Security News Website Gregory A. Gilliss (Feb 16)
- Re: New Security News Website Paul Schmehl (Feb 16)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: New Security News Website Pr0 Curve (Feb 18)