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Re: Security breach database


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:28:29 -0500

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:44:41 PST, n30 said:
Guys,

Looking for few interesting security breach stories...

Any database / sites that capture these??

Well, there's a problem - where do you get the stories?

The black hats probably won't be sharing their version of the stories
(at least until the statute of limitations expires ;).

The white hats may be unable to share their version - or at least not
in a worldwide public forum.  As a result, they become things that get
told over a pitcher of Guinness and a "You never heard this from me"
disclaimer.  A story that was interesting when I heard it in "When I was
doing a pen test for <named the guilty large finacial institution>, we found
a <description of totally stupid self-inflicted vulnerability>" becomes a lot
less interesting when I tell it as "Somebody I know was doing a pen test and..."

And since people are going to ask :)  The guy was doing a pen test for one of
the larger banks in NYC, and right at the start he was being watched by the
VP-level guy who had hired him.  So my friend is doing commentary as he's
trying stuff, for the VP's benefit, and the *very first* thing comes out as
"Well, we like to check this one first because it was popular years and years
ago, but it *never* works anymore.  It's a good test of the logging and alert
system though, because somebody should notice that it got tried and.. umm..
HOLY <BLEEP> IT WORKED"...

See? Somehow it loses something that way.. ;)

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