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Re: If Lycos can attack spammer sites, can we all start doing it?
From: bkfsec <bkfsec () sdf lonestar org>
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 14:26:14 -0500
Michael R. Schmidt wrote:
Are you saying that a murderer going to jail justifies the murder?!? Or are you saying that the murderer being in jail justifies the trial/investigation? Or are you saying that a potentially dangerous person being removed from society justifies his incarceration?Is putting a murderer in jail too much for you too? Cause that is the end justifying the means
The first possibility is stupid. The second possibility is dull. And the third possibility is obvious.
The problem here is that you have to drill down deeper into the issue. Your statement, at face value, is entirely worthless. I'm going to assume you mean the last case here and state that according to any civilized society, the end your referring to doesn't justify all means.
All western civilizations have standards for imprisonment and prosecution that have to be met. So, no, the end doesn't "justify the means". It justifies certain means, but not others.
And the means that it justifies it does so because society as a whole has deemed that those means are necessary and acceptible. Society has not deemed that torture is acceptible, neither as an end nor a mean. Period.
A country has a right to protect its citizensFrom internal as well as external forces
Really? When did the civil war begin? I must have missed it. -Barry _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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