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Re[2]: iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!]
From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne () winternet com>
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 21:42:39 -0500 (CDT)
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Steve wrote:
--- Ron DuFresne <dufresne () winternet com> wrote:Interesting, yet, so far lacking in any real evidence that Idefense was the force behind their demise. Is there something other then heresay and conjecture to back up the claim? Thanks, Ron DuFresneNot been to the http://www.roguesci.org site I take it? Read the front page then comment.
No, I had not been to that site/page. Thanks for the link, I must have missed it in your preivious posting on this. Seems these folks might not be doing themselves the most good though when they make statements like this on the page; <quote> There must now be a penalty applied to iDefense. There remains in my possession a considerable amount of knowledge concerning the synthesis of explosives and chemical weapons. I have held this knowledge in abeyance because I was unsure if the world is ready for it. I am the kind of person who does things solely for the reasons that others dislike it. Because iDefense thinks we have dangerous information I will no longer horde any of my chemical weapons information. I will distribute everything I have, and encourage others to do the same, for the very reason they dont want me to. I will also make every effort to distribute our information in as many languages as possible, to as many websites as possible. </quote> Taking legal action against idefense if they were the original source of the pressure that got them booted from their hosting site is one thing, asking the user community to either e-mail idefense about their displeasure or to not recommend or support idefense another, but, making statements like this is totally another. For one thing the threat is not directed at idefense, its directed at everyone at large. It kinda reeks of hormonal imbalance and perhaps reinforces the perception of terroistic tendencies. Thanks, Ron DuFresne ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Cutting the space budget really restores my faith in humanity. It eliminates dreams, goals, and ideals and lets us get straight to the business of hate, debauchery, and self-annihilation." -- Johnny Hart ***testing, only testing, and damn good at it too!*** OK, so you're a Ph.D. Just don't touch anything. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!] Ben Ryan (Aug 10)
- Re: iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!] J.A. Terranson (Aug 10)
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- Re[2]: iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!] Ben Ryan (Aug 10)
- Re[2]: iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!] Ron DuFresne (Aug 11)
- Re[2]: iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!] Steve (Aug 12)
- Re: iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!] Steve Kudlak (Aug 12)
- Re[2]: iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!] Ron DuFresne (Aug 12)
- Re: iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!] Ben Ryan (Aug 13)
- Re[2]: iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!] Ben Ryan (Aug 10)
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- Re: Re: iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!] bart2k (Aug 13)
- Re: Re: iDEFENSE - New Tricks [web censorship!] sf (Aug 15)