RE: Automated ssh scanning

["Todd Towles" <toddtowles () brookshires com>]

 There are too many factors that could play a role in this. We need to
reduce the factors more before we point fingers at any certain part. KF
has given us a good start.

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of KF_lists
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 1:55 PM
To: Mailing List - Full-Disclosure
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Automated ssh scanning

Will *ANYONE* that actually got hacked do me a favor and type:
"uname -a"
Then include that in your next email. I keep hearing "fully patched" 
server however I have a feeling the Kernel was left out of the patching.

-KF


Todd Towles wrote:
> Hey Ron,
>
> Guest isn't a admin so they let the tool get in. But the real 
> questions is, how does it get root access on a fully patched server? 
> It appears to use a local exploit to gain root access. This is a
problem.
> Sorry about the eariler e-mail, I haven't had my coffee today. Trying 
> to cut back and spend that money on IT security =P
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Ron 
> DuFresne
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:08 AM
> To: Tig
> Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Automated ssh scanning
>
>
>
> the real thing this user most likely suffered from was the weak 
> account passwd double, guest:guest.  Now, if the admin and other 
> account were setup with strong passwd's and this account was either 
> setup with a strong passwd or not setup at all might be a better test 
> of the stability of ssh and the debain setup in question.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron DuFresne
>
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Tig wrote:
>
>
> > On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:43:47 -0400
> > Gerry Eisenhaur <GEisenhaur () Cisco com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I am confused, you said you knew about some SSH scanning going on, 
> > > then set up those accounts on a box. Now you are curious way that box

> > > got rooted?
> > >
> > > Maybe I am missing something, but it seems you already have a pretty
>
>
> > > good assumption of why it got rooted.
> > >
> > > The software, as you seem to know, is a few exploits, a backdoor and
>
>
> > > some IRC stuff(bot and proxy).
> > >
> > > /gerry
> >
> > I think you did miss the point (which was a very good one). Basically,
>
>
> > once you have unprivileged access to a currently patched Woody box, 
> > you can quickly gain root access.
> >
> > I would love to see this tested against other version of Linux and 
> > *BSD with default (and updated) installations. Anyone have a spare box
>
>
> > and a few hours?
> >
> > -Tig
> >
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