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AW: YAWN (Was Microsoft math)
From: Mettler Sascha <sascha.mettler () rtc ch>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:07:31 +0200
Von: Andrew Aris [mailto:andrew () dev bigfishinternet co uk] For God's sake people GET OVER IT! For whatever reason MS have patched these Vulns in condensed patches, yes
it
suits some people (myself included I'll admit) and doesn't suit others. It does suit the majority of home users for example (which hang on happens to be MS's bread-and-butter market). Lets be honest here that for whatever exact reason they did it this way, be it to ease the logistics at their end of developing/releasing the patches:
You're generally right when it comes to the integration of several fixes into one patch. And you're certainly correct with the conlusion that there are a lot of people being either pro or contra MS without having decent or professional arguments for their narrow mindedness. but (you guessed it)... it's another thing when the propaganda and pr machinery from Redmond perverts facts and abuses numbers resulting from those cumulative patches. and they will and already do...see end of 4th paragraph in http://www.w2knews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=040412RN-ISA_Ballmer that's simply asking for negative reactions...and imho the outcry from decent thinking people is not about the technical question, if it makes sense to have less patches at once to apply and test. it's about what ms pr people make of it. as an outsider, i see two sides of microsoft. One is the great usability, mostly nice working software eg. the technicians and coders at ms. The other being embrace and extend or buying ideas/standards and pretending ms invented 'em (new ie popup features), using proprietary formats and extensions while still calling it standard (office xml, kerberos), integrating software parts for no technical reason but to enforce the monopoly (ie, mediaplayer), buying studies, omitting facts etc. that's what they are to blame for. and the number of patches in 2004 will be and is part of their pr, unregarded the techical questions. regards Sascha Mettler Berne, Switzerland _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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