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Re: Cisco LEAP exploit tool...
From: Amaury Jacquot <sxpert () esitcom org>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:07:31 +0200
Jeff Schreiner wrote:
7 miles away is stretching it a bit far considering that all 802.11g wireless transmissions range between 2.4 - 2.4835 Ghz 802.11a/h/j range between 5.47 - 5.725 Ghz not only are the frequencies prone to scatter...the radio waves bounce off everything. All wireless routers are limited by FCC regulations to a maximum of 1 watt. http://www.odessaoffice.com/wireless/fcc_ism.html (1) For frequency hopping systems in the 2400-2483.5 MHz band employing at least 75 hopping channels, all frequency hopping systems in the 5725-5850 MHz band, and all direct sequence systems: 1 watt. For all other frequency hopping systems in the 2400-2483.5 MHz band: 0.125 watts. To get a 2.4 Ghz signal to travel 7 miles you would have to install an amplifier to boost the output to somewhere between 5 to 10 watts a 5 Ghz signal would require even more at which point you're in violation of FCC rules and Uncle Sam might come looking for ya.
not exactly in fact, you don't need amplifiers in most cases. you don't even need 1 wattin fact, the trick lies in the antenna you attach to the active end of the communication devices. for instance, we were able to do a 15km link at 11mbit/s with 2 15dBi antennas from hyperlinktech.com. that's much more than 7 miles (it's about 10 miles).
with 21dB antennas, we calculated that we'd be able to do 30km, or 20 miles. and that's with 100mw (netgear MA311 PCI cards)with 1 watt, you could, erh... go as far as where the roundness of the earth prevents you from seeing the other station... (you may be able to do some troposcatter, but you'd probably need much more power...)
Just an FYI. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of Williams Jon Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:15 PM To: Paul Schmehl; Email List: Full Disclosure Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Cisco LEAP exploit tool... Well, that depends. For example, if you aren't using some form of strong authentication (i.e. smart cards, SecureID tokens, etc.) then its possible for someone to steal a laptop, use something like Cain (from the package Cain & Able) to extract their password from the registry. With that and a known wireless laptop, the attacker can then access your whole network from the parking lot (or the neighbor's house, or 7 miles away, etc.) While the same password vulnerability exists for non-wireless environments, it does mean that the attacker would have to have physical access to the building to use the credentials.Jon_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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