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From: Michael Elsdörfer <michael () elsdoerfer net>
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:23:13 +0200

Does anyone care to wager how many security vulnerabilities Microsoft will
create by making this change?

None. There are still the security settings, which are currently used.

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Does anyone care to wager how many security vulnerabilities Microsoft will
create by making this change?

Joel R. Helgeson
Director of Networking & Security Services
SymetriQ Corporation

"Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and
he'll
be warm for the rest of his life."
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From: "Rainer Gerhards" <rgerhards () hq adiscon com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 2:36 PM
Subject: [Full-disclosure] IE Changes / Software Patents


I just found a very interesting effect of software patents:

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2003/oct03/10-06EOLASPR.asp

As was posted on this list not so far ago, Microsoft lost a case against
Eolas on some aspects of ActiveX embedding in IE. Their technical
reaction is a good sample of what software patents cause:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/ieupdate/activexchanges.asp

In short

- a lot of web pages are broken (even PDF should not work in all cases)
- the user will become educated to press OK on popups even more often
- wild workarounds are created (base64 encode the parameter instead
passing it clear-text) to avoid patented code

That last point is not written directly in the msdn document, but I read
between the lines this will be the preferred workaround.

Isn't that nicely?

Rainer

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